Millership/Millichamp/Millichoppe/Millichap

[woody123]

Hi Cire,
The name Frances doesn't appear in my family tree.  I do have a Richard Millership born abt,1793 in Bedworth, Warwickshire.  You mention Job Millerchip had sons and one of them was called Richard.  At the moment I can go no further back than Richard Millership.

Thanks....

Mark..

[cire]

Hi Mark,
This is my interpretation .
I am certain that the Richard Millership b. Bedworth c. 1793 was the son of Job Millerchip and Elizabeth Haywood. He was baptised in Bedworth 26/5/1793. His mother Elizabeth died shortly afterwards in 1797. His father married again, this time to Elizabeth Lee in Warwick in 1799, and soon after moved to Oldbury. Some of the sons of his first marriage moved to Greasley, and at some stage Richard joined them. He married? Elizabeth Stapleton, she was the sister of Phoebe Stapleton who married Richard's elder brother William. Richard and Elizabeth then moved back to Oldbury, to rejoin the rest of the family. We haven't been able to find a marriage of Richard and Elizabeth Stapletonaround 1820 when their family began, BUT there is a possible marriage of a Richard Millership and an Elizabeth Stapleton in the Kings Norton registration area  (GRO dec quarter 1855) not long before Richard's death in 1858 in Oldbury. I haven't splashed out on a copy of the certificate but if you find anything about this marriage I would be very interested.

I note in your family interests the surname Roberts. Are you any relation to Maureen? We swapped a lot of info on the Millerships a year or two ago.

Cire

[woody123]

Hi again cire,

Thats a very interesting interpretation you have.  I have applied for the marriage certificate of John Millership and Rebecca Roberts, i'm trying to find out where the mispelling of millership occurred.  I will soon get down to Richard Millership born 1824 in Greasly and get the marriage certificate of him and Eliza Plant who married in 1847, West Bromwich. 

I'll let you know when I get that marriage certificate.

It's a pity that we couldn't get a certificate from before 1837, that would solve a few things.

I don't know if I'm any relation to maureen.  As you can see above the surnname Roberts appears in my millership line.

Kind Regards

Mark.

[woody123]

Cire,

I just been on familysearch.org and typed in a few possibilities.  There is an Elizabeth Stapleton born 1792, Greasly who married Gervas Rowbottom in 1826 in Greasly.  I looked on the West Midlands bmd site and found that marriage of Richard Millership and Elizabeth Stapleton in 1855 it was in Sandwell.  But if Elizabeth married before her surname wouldn't be stapleton.

Mark...

[cire]

Hi Mark,
What I am thinking (suggesting) is that Richard and Elizabeth did not marry in Greasley for some reason in the 1820s and he didn't make "an honest woman" of her until much later (1855). I may be maligning them.
Sandwell is in the area they were living inthe 1850s.
Elizabeth was we think the daughter of Timothy Stapleton and Hannah (Wilcockson). They had daughters Elizabeth and Phoebe.(Phoebe married Richard's brother William.)

The IGI isn't terribly good for Nottinghamshire.

Richard and Elizabeth had children baptised in Greasley parish church and later in a Methodist church meeting in a schoolroom in Beaverlee or Beggarlee which is a hamlet in Greasley. I have baptisms for 6 children, Thomas,Eliza, Richard, Samuel, Timothy, & Phoebe. The baptism of Samuel gives the mother's surname.
hope this makes sense
Cire

[woody123]

Hi cire,

I agree with you about Elizabeth Stapleton's parents, If Elizabeth was a witness at her son Richard's Wedding in 1847 then your theory may be right.

I think the way forward is to get certificates to connect people to each other.  The marriage certificate of Richard Millership and Elizabeth Stapleton from 1855 should give their age at marriage.

Mark...

[woody123]

I have received the marriage certificate of John Millership & Rebecca Roberts from 1887, Blackheath.  John's father Richard Millership was a labourer at the time.  He would be in his sixties so maybe to old to still be a coal miner.

The surname Millership is spelt correctly on this certificate.

The witnesses are a Thomas Millership and an Agnes Millership, these names don't appear in any notes I have at the moment, i wonder if they appear in anyone elses research.

Mark....

[cire]

Hi Woody
The family are on the 1881 census in Oldbury. Richard, the father, disabled miner, mother eliza and John & among other children a Thomas and Agnes.

Cire

[woody123]

Thanks cire,

So I now need to find out how that family relates to mine.

I've noticed that family before and there is a John in there, but I think I am right in thinking that my john millership lived with the preston family at Rounds Ford, Oldbury Aged 16.

I'll work it out soon


Mark...........