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1901 census and 1881 census lookup please.
« on: Saturday 15 July 06 19:20 BST (UK) »
Hi cant find a SAMUEL BRUZE on 1881 census.I dont know much about him at all - sorry but he links with IGI to my family of Bruce's.

In 1899 samuel Bruze married an Eliza Jones his father was callled Thomas .
Samuel was age 49 when he wed Eliza age 47.So Samuel was born around 1850 , Eliza around 1852.

I cannot find anything about samuel surely he must be on a census in 1851 with his father



 Any help appreciated cheers
sue

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Re: 1901 census and 1881 census lookup please.
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 15 July 06 22:58 BST (UK) »
Hi Sue,


To be perfectly honest, not only can't I find him on the
'81 or '01, with the exception of the IGI marriage he doesn't
appear to exist at all?
All the applicable census returns have been tried - using Bruze, Bruse, Bruce, Brews etc. inc. the wild card  ???.
BMD - nothing!
I am sure I can't be the only person who is exhausting all
the options either  :-\.
I will keep looking and in the meantime hopefully someone
might find the answer  :)

Good luck,

Pels
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Re: 1901 census and 1881 census lookup please.
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 15 July 06 23:01 BST (UK) »
Hi Sue,

Here we are:  BMD Stockton, Jun qtr. 1899

Samuel Breeze married Eliza Jones   :D


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Re: 1901 census and 1881 census lookup please.
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 15 July 06 23:17 BST (UK) »
Hi again,

I've checked the 1901 census and Samuel and Eliza
are there with 5 children + the mother in law - Mary
Evans.
This ties in with the IGI - Eliza Jones's father
being listed as William Evans!
Both husband and wife were born in Wales - would you still
like this following up?

Regards,

Pels
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Re: 1901 census and 1881 census lookup please.
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 16 July 06 01:10 BST (UK) »
Hi again,

I've checked the 1901 census and Samuel and Eliza
are there with 5 children + the mother in law - Mary
Evans.
This ties in with the IGI - Eliza Jones's father
being listed as William Evans!
Both husband and wife were born in Wales - would you still
like this following up?

Regards,

Pels

Hi,
yes as for some reason they link to my Bruce's and i am puzzled.

sue

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Re: 1901 census and 1881 census lookup please.
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 16 July 06 08:32 BST (UK) »
Hi Sue,

1901 census, RG 13/4627, district 37, page 3.
Durham, Stockton on Tees.
1, Edith Place.


Samuel Breeze, head. mar. 51, occ. Puddler, Ironworks, b. Wales, Abbavale. /CNS
Eliza, wife, mar. 48, b. Wales, Stefroesl.  /CNS
Mary, dau. single, 18,  b. Stockton on Tees,  /Deaf
William, son, single, 16, occ. Fireman, Rivet Furnace Bolt,
b. Stockton on Tees
Cassy, dau. 12, b. Wales, Caven.  /CNS
Christopher, son, 10, b. Stockton
Lilly, dau. 2, b. Stockton
Mary Evans, mother in law, widow, 74, b. Wales, Methyr Tid Vill, Brecon

The transcription of Eliza's birthplace is Stefroest and Cassy's
birthplace is transcribed as Cavea?

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Pels  :)
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Re: 1901 census and 1881 census lookup please.
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 16 July 06 09:35 BST (UK) »
Was having a poke around on this one and uncovered something a little strange

1891 wales
RG12/4619
folio 144
page 31

Mill House, Bersham, Denbighshire. (Surname transcribed as Brege)

Thomas Breeze, head, widow, 60, bn Llanfair, Montgomery.
Alfred Breeze, son, single, 22, printers composite, bn Owestry, Salop.
John Lewis Breeze, son, single, 18, scholar, bn Abenbury, Flint (I think)
Sarah A James, servant, single, 13, general servant domestic, bn Afn, Denbigh.

RG12/4619
folio 119
page 41

Every thing is the same, address etc and family living next door except they are transcribed and on the image as Bruze.

I have never come accross two copies of the same family in the same census. Hand wriiting is different and on the second census that page is the last of that set Dendighshire, Bersham, district 18. First image was Denbighshire, Bersham, district 38.

Not sure if this is your guys family but it seems to explain the possible name mix up of Breeze and Bruze.
Glendenning
Laycock
Wilson
Garnett
(Halifax, Shelf, Hunslet, Bradford, Manningham, Leeds)

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Re: 1901 census and 1881 census lookup please.
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 16 July 06 09:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Sue,

1901 census, RG 13/4627, district 37, page 3.
Durham, Stockton on Tees.
1, Edith Place.


Samuel Breeze, head. mar. 51, occ. Puddler, Ironworks, b. Wales, Abbavale. /CNS
Eliza, wife, mar. 48, b. Wales, Stefroesl.  /CNS
Mary, dau. single, 18,  b. Stockton on Tees,  /Deaf
William, son, single, 16, occ. Fireman, Rivet Furnace Bolt,
b. Stockton on Tees
Cassy, dau. 12, b. Wales, Caven.  /CNS
Christopher, son, 10, b. Stockton
Lilly, dau. 2, b. Stockton
Mary Evans, mother in law, widow, 74, b. Wales, Methyr Tid Vill, Brecon

The transcription of Eliza's birthplace is Stefroest and Cassy's
birthplace is transcribed as Cavea?

Best wishes,
Pels  :)

Hi,
Is this SAMUEL BREEZE the same person as SAMUEL BRUZE ?
I am confused ! I know with some of my families the surnames are always mispelt.However they are linked on IGI on www.familysearch.org to my BRUCE side .The batch number is M162411.Will he be related if he is on the  same batch number??
I have come across many different spellings of BRUCE ! i know people spelt my name wrong.
I cant seem to get further back and im hoping SAMUEL is a cousin however all my Bruce side originate Stockton.

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Re: 1901 census and 1881 census lookup please.
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 16 July 06 10:03 BST (UK) »
Hello again!

1861 census: RG 9/3706 District 9, page 45
Durham, Escomb, Railway Row.


Thomas Breese, h. marr. 40, occ. Baller Iron Works
b. Montgomeryshire
Sarah, wife, m. 29, b. Glamorganshire
Samuel, son, unm. 14, occ. Puddler Iron Works,
b. Monmouthshire
Thomas, son, 6, scholar, b. Durham, Escomb
John, son, 5, b. Durham, Escomb
William, son, 2, b. Escomb
David, son, 2mths. Twin, b. Escomb
Mary Ann, dau. 2 mths. Twin, b. Escomb
Catherine Harris, serv. 18, House Servant, b. Merthyr
John Hughes, boarder, wdwer, 49, Baller Ironworks,
b. Monmouthshire
William Brocket, boarder, wdwer, 40, Baller, b. Monmouth
Newbridge

Regards,

Pels

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them  :)
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