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JONES Richard William, Much Wenlock
« on: Sunday 16 July 06 06:38 BST (UK) »
My g. grandfather, Richard William Jones was born Sept 1846 in Much Wenlock, supposedly the first of 8 children to John and Margaret Jones.   

He came to New Zealand around 1872.  As yet I haven't been able to find him on any passenger lists - he was an engineer so he may have worked his passage?  He married my g. grandmother, Elizabeth Green in New Zealand in 1874.  I have obtained a copy of their marriage certificate and find that he was married before, as he is listed as a widower.  I thought I had found the right one online and sent away for that marriage cert., but it is wrong, so I now have surplus one for R.W. Jones and Sophia Williams if it is of use to anyone.

My question main question is - where do I go now to find who he may have married?  Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks, 
Abby
Jones - Shropshire & Wales; Green - Warwickshire; Evans & Smith - Bedminster; Joll - Calstock, Cornwall; Harrison; Treliving - Cornwall; Matthews, Bell, Marks - UK; Watt - Edinburgh; Mossman - Canada; Lange & Balck/Balch/Balk - Germany.
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Re: Jones, Richard William, Much Wenlock
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 16 July 06 07:29 BST (UK) »
Hi Abby and welcome to Rootschat  :)

Have you found Richard on the 1871 census?  His first wife may still be alive, which will narrow down the search.

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Re: Jones, Richard William, Much Wenlock
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 16 July 06 08:48 BST (UK) »
Thank you Prue  - I will try that, 

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Jones - Shropshire & Wales; Green - Warwickshire; Evans & Smith - Bedminster; Joll - Calstock, Cornwall; Harrison; Treliving - Cornwall; Matthews, Bell, Marks - UK; Watt - Edinburgh; Mossman - Canada; Lange & Balck/Balch/Balk - Germany.
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Re: Jones, Richard William, Much Wenlock
« Reply #3 on: Monday 17 July 06 07:00 BST (UK) »
Here he is in 1851:


HO107/1990 folio 13 page 17 - Harley, Shropshire

John Jones Head Marr 26 Ag Lab born Berrington Montgomeryshire
Margaret Jones Wife 26 Marr Domestic Duties born Llanfair Montogmeryshire
Richard Jones Son 4 born Wenlock Salop
Margaret Jones Dau (age looks like 0?) born Broseley Salop


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Bennett, Owen, Owens, Hudson, Crisp, Challinor/Challoner/Chaloner, Lewis, James, Richards, Simon, Mills, Evans, Trow, Davies, Turner, Beaton/Betton, Lloyd, Jenkins, Evans.....and a ton of JONES!!!!

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Re: Jones, Richard William, Much Wenlock
« Reply #4 on: Monday 17 July 06 07:13 BST (UK) »
In 1861 I can see a 14 year old Richard, Farm Servant in the village of Cressage, working for John and Elizabeth Edwards.

RG9/1861 folio 21 page 12 - Cressage Farm


Cressage is approximately 3 miles from Much Wenlock so could be a possibiliy.


Here's the rest of the family in 1861:


RG9/1861 folio 11 page 16 - Cressage Park Cottages, Harley, Shropshire

John Jones Head Marr 36 Drainer born Montgomeryshire Buttington
Margaret Jones Wife Marr 36 born Montgomeryshire Llanfair
Mary Ann Jones Dau 12 Scholar born Salop Broseley
Jane Jones Dau 8 Scholar born Salop Harley
Edward Jones Son 6 born Salop Harley
John Jones Son 1 born Salop Harley
Stephen Emery Lodger Unm 37 Drainer born Somersetshire Farnbrough


Jan


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Bennett, Owen, Owens, Hudson, Crisp, Challinor/Challoner/Chaloner, Lewis, James, Richards, Simon, Mills, Evans, Trow, Davies, Turner, Beaton/Betton, Lloyd, Jenkins, Evans.....and a ton of JONES!!!!

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Re: Jones, Richard William, Much Wenlock
« Reply #5 on: Monday 17 July 06 07:23 BST (UK) »

How are you getting on with the 1871 search?


Jan
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Bennett, Owen, Owens, Hudson, Crisp, Challinor/Challoner/Chaloner, Lewis, James, Richards, Simon, Mills, Evans, Trow, Davies, Turner, Beaton/Betton, Lloyd, Jenkins, Evans.....and a ton of JONES!!!!

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Re: Jones, Richard William, Much Wenlock
« Reply #6 on: Monday 17 July 06 08:28 BST (UK) »
Dear, Dear Jan,

I hope you heard my kiwi yahoos from where you are!!  This is so exciting - when you ask how I'm getting on with the 1871 search, I have to confess to no action as I'm home with the flu and expected I would have to head into my library to check that out...

As you will have guessed, I am new to this site and so much value your help.

A picture is starting to emerge!

Thanks again,
Abby

Jones - Shropshire & Wales; Green - Warwickshire; Evans & Smith - Bedminster; Joll - Calstock, Cornwall; Harrison; Treliving - Cornwall; Matthews, Bell, Marks - UK; Watt - Edinburgh; Mossman - Canada; Lange & Balck/Balch/Balk - Germany.
All to New Zealand

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Re: Jones, Richard William, Much Wenlock
« Reply #7 on: Monday 17 July 06 08:41 BST (UK) »
Hi Abby!  :)  Jan has got you started with the census, so here is 1871.  There are three Richard Joneses from Much Wenlock, but only one with the right age:

Richard JONES   Married   25  Gardener  Much Wenlock

He is a lodger in the house of William DAVIES, 7 Armory Tce, Shrewsbury, Shropshire.  Not sure where his wife is, though.  And here I was, thinking they'd be together!  Of course I could have the wrong Richard Jones...

Hope your flu goes away soon - I was off with it last week  :-\

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Re: Jones, Richard William, Much Wenlock
« Reply #8 on: Monday 17 July 06 08:42 BST (UK) »
Should have said, the William DAVIES he is lodging with has a birthplace of Montgomery[shire], Kerry - long shot, but possible connection to Richard's parents who are from the same county?

Prue