FLOWERS BREWERY

[jim1]

Mmmm
Must have been having an off day.Your right about the name of the brewery but when it comes to Censii and PR's you can't discount the name variations.Haven't heard from the requester so I don't know how it all went.
Regards to you anyway
Jim

[davidsbrother]

Flower Brewery Family.
Many thanks to those who are responding to my request.
Can one of you please confirm the names and birth dates of the Ten children of Edgar Flower b.1834 and Isabella .

Also the names and birth dates of the Seven children of Edgar's brother, William Henry Flower.

Have any of you got in your family tree any of the following three sisters
Eliza Louisa Flower b. c1858 who married John Edward Batchelor.
Maud Flower b.c1875 who married James Green
Louisa Flower b.c1876 who married Richard ?
And if so how are they connected to the family.
(Did any of the Family live in East London).

Many thanks for your kind co-operation and information.

[Pennytw]

Edgar and Isabella's children:
Rosalie Mary Flower 1860- 1914
Agnes Celina Flower 1961 - 1942
Henrietta Edith Greaves Flower 1863 - 1927
Sir Archibald Dennis Flower 1865 -1950
Lt Richard Fordham Flower 1867 - 1900
Florence Flower 1869 - 1936
Oswald Swift Flower 1871 - 1916
Lilian Frances Flower 1873 - 1946
Maj Spencer Alborough Flower 1878 - 1939
Violet Honora Flower ? - 1880 died of scarlet fever as a very young girl

William Henry and Georgiana 's children
Arthur Smyth Flower 1860 - 1936
Caroline Mary 1861 - 1945
Vera Josephine 1863 -1938
Geraldine Rose 1867 - 1949
Stanley Smyth 1871 - 1946
Lt Col Victor Augustine 1875 - 1917
Augusta Ellen 1881? -

No I don't have any of the other people you mentioned in the tree. My family lived in Stratford-upon-Avon and then some moved to London, but not East London

Cheers

Penny

[Pennytw]

Also Sir William Henry Flower was Director of the Natural History Museum in Kensington, prior to that he worked at Hunterian Museum at the Royal College of Surgeons, and prior to that he was a surgeon in th Crimean war. He moved to Stanhope Gardens near the Kensington Museum.

I think Arthur Smyth Flower may have been staying at his uncle/cousins' place when the census was conducted. I have found MANY mistakes on censii and PR. Like a computer, they are only as good as the person writing the info down perceives eg bad spelling, bad hearing, or just plain "not very bright"!

There were some Martha's in the US Flower family (Edward Fordham Flower's older brother's lot) - but let's face it, Flower is a fairly common name

Cheers

Penny

[davidsbrother]

Thanks for all your information, which is most interesting.

I have in my Flower Family Tree a Maud Flowers b. c1875 at Shoreditch Middx. 
She married JAMES GREEN in 1898 at Bethnal Green.
Her parents were Richard W.Flowers b 1833 at Portsea Hants. And Eliza b 1835 also at Portsea.

I have been told that my Maud Flowers was connected or related to the Flower Brewery family.

In 1954 the Flowers Brewery was taken over by J.W.GREEN.  Is he any relation to the James Green who married my Maud Flowers ?

[Pennytw]

I am not not sure about JW Green, but the Shakespeare Birthplace Trust has various papers about the Flower family, the Brewery and its closure and they will have that information. The Flower family gave land to the Shakespeare Memorial Theatre many many years ago, which eventually transformed into the Royal Shakespeare Company. It is a wonderful library with very helpful staff, so worth an email, letter or phone call, as appropriate to where you live! Edward Fordham Flower as well as running the brewery was mayor of Stratford Upon Avon for some time so there is much info about the family available. The SBT Library ran an exhibition on two families - Flower and one other a year or two ago, which unfortunately I missed.

Cheers

Penny

[davidsbrother]

Thanks for all your information Penny, much appreciated.

[emmamexico]

Hey Jim,

You've got some of the Flower family a little mixed up. Edgar did have 10 children - but not Arthur Smyth Flower. Arthur was one of WHF's and my great grandfather.

There were four sons to Edward Fordham Flower and his wife Celina Greaves:
Richard Fordham Flower (died very young)
Charles Edward Flower - married but no children
William Henry Flower - 7 children
Edgar Flower - 10 children

Also be careful, Flowers Brewery family were Flower with no "s".

Cheers

Penny

Hi - I am trying to trace if there is any connection between the brewery and my husbands family.  He is Paul Flower and his direct family are based in Dorset.  I have only just started this genealogy thing and he knows nothing about his family!  So far I have also traced his Flowers to Somerset.

Any information welcome.

[Smokey807]

Is there any connection between Flowers Brewery and Flowers Appliances of Tunbridge Wells.If yes please provide details.It would seem unlikely that the brewery would be making appliances but perhaps one of the Flowers sons had an appliance business.