1841 census lookup for members of Mann family

[hwlambert]

Can anyone help locate these members of the Mann family in the 1841 census please.
Parents Matthew Mann and Sophia
children George b1801, Edwin b1803, John b1804, Pamela b1807, Frederick b1811, Matthew b1814, Samuel b1817 and Sophia b1820 all baptised at Gedling church with place of abobe listed as Carlton.

Thanks.

[Jane Eden]

Hi

Yes they were baptised at Gedling but I cannot find them on the 1841 census. Could they have moved away? Do you have evidence they were there later?

Jane

[hwlambert]

Thanks Jane,
I have Matthew (39) widower, and his family in the 1851 census at 63 Alfeston Rd, Radford.
I have Samuel (43) and his family in the 1861 census at Park Street, Notts, his wife Martha Ryder  (40) was born in Twyford Leic, married in Notts Sept qtr 1840, children born in Notts.
I have Sophia Buckland (30) and her family in the 1851 census at 15 Snow Hill, Notts.

These were the last 3 born.  I have nothing of the other members of the family.
Cheers.

[suzard]

Can't seem to locate them on 1841

but
do you have this marriage

Nottingham Register of Marriages
marriages at Gedling 1559-1810
Volume 6
Matthew Mann of St Marys Nottingham
Sophia Savidge of G.
lic. 13 Oct 1799

by the way,
Matthew in 1851 is at Alfreton Rd-also located him in 1861/81/91 if you need them

Suz

[suzard]

A little more searching and have found the following:

1841
Carlton (Civil Parish Gedling) Nottingham
George mann 40 Butcher
Susannah 45
Matthew 15
William 7
all b. county

next door but 4

Pamela Jagger(looks Like) 50 Publican
John Jagger 30
George Jagger 25
Sarah Savage 10 F.S.
Emla(?) or Pamla (?) Wilson 10 F.S.

all b county

Could this be Pamela Mann-note the Savage/Savidge connection??

HO107/865/12 37 5

1841
George St Radford Nottingham
Joseph Stanley 65 Independant
Matthew Mann 30 Lace M
Henrietta Man 25
Matthew Mann 7
Ellen mann 5
Joseph Mann 3
Henrietta Mann 1

all b. county

HO107/860/5 26 6

also
1841 at Greyhound Yard Nottingham there is Sophia mann 20 F.S. to T Weightman Fishmonger and 3 young children (no wife for Mr Weightman)
Full census if required

1901 there is Fred Mann 96 inmate in Nottingham Union Workhouse

Suz

[suzard]

Further information on Pamela Jagger
She is more likely to be sister(rather than daughter) of Sophie Savidge married Matthew Mann

Nottingham Register of Marriages
Marriages at gedling
John Jagger and Pamela Savidge lic. 24 April 1810

1851
Carlton Gedling Nottingham
Pamela Jagger Head Widow 63 Victualler Carlton
John Jagger son U 39 Brewer Carlton
George Jagger son U 38 Imbecile
Emila(or Pamila) Mason Granddaughter M 21 General Servant Carlton
Samuel Mason Great Grandson 11mth Notts Burton

next but one

George mann Head 50 Butcher Carlton
Susannah Mann wife 54 Arnold Notts
Eliz Mann Granddaughter 3 Carlton

HO107/2128 325 18

[hwlambert]

Wow, such a lot of information, thanks so much.   
Can you give me the full details of the Sophia Mann with the Weightmans in 1841 please.
Will now go away and digest all this.  Thanks once again.

[suzard]

1841-I thought the Weightman Sophia worked for was male -just discovered age is in female column!!! 1851 backs this up
1841Greyhound Yard Nottingham St Mary
T or S Weightman 35 Fishmonger (female)
Wiliam Weightman 15
Harriett 5
Susan 3
mary 1
Sophie Mann 20 F.S.
Mary lee 60 all b. county
HO107/870/14 10 12

1851 Sophie had moved on
Greyhound yard Nottingham St Mary
Sarah Weightman Head Widow 46 Fishmonger
Harriett Weightman daugh 15 Fishmongers daughter
Sarah Ann Weightman (susan on 1841? daughter 13
Mary Weightman daughter 11
James Weightman son 6
all b Nottingham
HO107/2131 12 17

Suz

[hwlambert]

Thanks Suz,
Thats great, I have Sophia from 1851 when she married George Buckland.  She had an illegitimate son George in 1848 baptised in Sneinton so I guess she moved around that time.
Thanks for your help.