Bervie - Lownie

[Isles]

Hi Christine.  The 1841 Census of Forfar, Piece: SCT1841/288  has this:

Duke's Wood

George Lownie   34       Linen Hand Loom Weaver        born Angus
Mary          "        33                                                               "
George      "          6                                                               "   
David         "          3                                                               "
William       "         10 months                                                 "
Agnes        "         40                                                              "
Bell Wood             10        Female Servant                             "

The Agnes Lownie aged 40 looks to be George's sister.  The IGI  has an extracted entry showing that a David Lownie and an Agnes Shepherd         
had a son George Lownie born 24 Nov 1805, Forfar.  I cannot find his parents marriage.  Unfortunately I cannot follow them up in the 1851 Census as the ScotlandsPeople website is down at the moment.

Regards,
Isles.

[cmdowd]

Thanks so much for the quick reply. That might be a bit late for William - his first son was born in 1856 in Philadelphia, but thena again, he might have married young.

Christine

[Jamesgee]

I have a Robert Lownie who married an Annie Munro and they would be born around the 1850s or 60s I think
Robert had a brother John and their Mother was Margaret Lownie

I can find no information on Margaret on who she was married to or if she was married.

She was from Gourdon or Bervie

If you can shed any light on the above I would be grateful

Perhaps the Bervonian can help ....how do I get in touch with him ?

[MonicaL]

Hi Jamesgee

Welcome to RootsChat 

This looks a possible for Robert's birth:

ROBERT LOWNIE  Birth: 16 JUL 1858 in Bervie, Kincardine
Parents: MARGARET LOWNIE

JOHN CRUICKSHANK OR LOWNIE  Birth: 29 OCT 1864 Bervie, Kincardine
Parents:JOHN CRUICKSHANK and MARGARET LOWNIE - the way John's entry has been written up would normally imply parents were not married.

There is a marriage showing for them later on 21 JAN 1865 in Bervie, Kincardine.

This looks like them in 1871:

John Cruickshank 37, farm servant, b. Glenbervie, Kincardine
Margaret Cruickshank 39, b. Bervie
John Cruickshank 6, b. Bervie
Isabella Simpson 7, daughter ? b. Fetteresso, Kincardine
William Simpson 6, son b. Fetteresso, Kincardine
Man Lees 34, servant b. Fetteresso, Kincardine
James S Lees 7, b. Montrose, Forfarshire 

Address: Cottar House On Townhead, Arbuthnott, Kincardineshire

Where would Robert be I wonder?

Monica

[Isles]

There is a birth of a Margaret Lownie at Bervie on 15 April 1831, the parents being Alexander Lownie and Ann Gowan.

Isles.

[Jamesgee]

Thanks Monica & Isles

I think this is probably the correct Robert Lownie although I have him as born 1855 but I can't remember where I got that from ....probably the marriage details ...he married an Annie Munro and I do not have a date for that either.

Perhaps I got the DOB from his son's birth details ( my Grandfather James Lownie )  ....that's more likely.

Monica, 1831 I assume is a census year and Robert would be 13 so perhaps he had left to work elsewhere ?

Thanks for the info on Margaret Isles ....is that as far back as records go ?

James

[Jamesgee]

one more detail ....I have in my documents a DOB for Robert Lownie as 17 Jul 1855...but this is so close I have to assume you have hit on the right one !

J

[Isles]

Hi James.  I downloaded the following marriage from ScotlandsPeople:

19 Jul 1871 at Paradise Road, Dundee.  After banns according to the Forms of the U.P. (United Presbyterian) Church.
Robert Lownie, Seaman, M.S.(Merchant Service) aged 29 of Dudhope Road, Dundee.  His parents, James Lownie, Iron Moulder (deceased) and Mary Webster (deceased).
Ann Munro, Cop Winder aged 27 of No.10 Dudhope Crescent, Dundee. Her parents, John Munro, Iron Moulder (deceased) and Catherine McGregor (deceased).  Just to add -
Robert's parents were married 18 Sep 1842, Monifieth, Angus, and they also had children Mary McLeish Lownie 24 Sep 1844, Monifieth, and James Lownie 21 Aug 1846, Monifieth.

Isles (aka Bervonian)

[Jamesgee]

Thanks for that Isles

I may have been following back the wrong Robert Lownie

Perhaps I need to revisit starting with my father James Munro Lownie born 4/12/1909 in Dundee ...he had 2 brothers and 1 sister ( she died quite young )

Their Father was James Lownie and he married Mathilda May

J