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Andrew CRAWFORD - Ilford
« on: Saturday 26 August 06 00:17 BST (UK) »
I have just began to search for the family of Andrew Crawford born Roxburghshire,Scotland,1860,
he is the only branch of my Crawford tree I need to complete.
Andrew Crawford was the informant at the death of his uncle in Scotland on Aug 24th 1889,he gave his address as;141 Queens Rd,Bayswater,London.

I have searched for Andrew on the 1901 census for England and believe he is living at 17 Grosvenor Rd, Ilford,Essex, with his wife Selina( hand writing difficult to read),
Andrew is 41yrs old,a draper born Scotland.

My only clue to his family is a photograph of Olive Crawford taken in Billericay, she kept in touch with my late great-uncle, who died in 1998.

When Miss Olive Crawford died in 1999 my mother received a letter from her nephew, Brigadier Alistair W Crawford,

I have done a search on the 1837 web site and found; Olive Eleanor F Crawford,born 2nd Oct 1907,died Thurrock,Dec 1999,
Also Olive Eleanor F Crawford, born Romford 1907,

My other great-uncle who will be 101yrs old next month, can only tell me that Olive Crawfords father was Andrew Crawford who was a draper. he didn't keep in touch with that side of the family,

Given that Olive was born in 1907 she may have been Andrew's daughter or grand-daughter,

Andrew Crawford's parents were William Crawford and Eleanor Brown,

Any help or suggestions would be most welcome,
I live in Canada and I am more familiar with research in Scotland which has a very different system.
Thank you for reading,
Amanda.
Robson,Hawick.
Dodds,Hawick
Huggan,Hawick.
Burns,Hawick.
Brash,Hawick.
Crawford,Lilliesleaf.
Hislop,Lilliesleaf.
Pollock,Roxburghshire.
Whillans,Wheelans,Scotland.
Kennedy,Ancrum.

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Re: Andrew Crawford,Ilford.
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 26 August 06 12:27 BST (UK) »
I don't think Olive can be Selina's daughter, as this looks like her death in 1903:

Deaths Dec 1903
CRAWFORD   Selina          50   
Romford 4a 257

There's a marriage for an Andrew Crawford in Romford reg. district in 1905 to either Jessie Bennett LOFTHOUSE or Amy Amelia NICHOLLS.

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ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: Andrew Crawford,Ilford.
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 26 August 06 13:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Rambler,thanks for your help, I decided to order the birth certificate of Olive Crawford born 1907,it should arrive in a couple of weeks and give some answers, will let you know the result,

thank you again,

Amanda.
Robson,Hawick.
Dodds,Hawick
Huggan,Hawick.
Burns,Hawick.
Brash,Hawick.
Crawford,Lilliesleaf.
Hislop,Lilliesleaf.
Pollock,Roxburghshire.
Whillans,Wheelans,Scotland.
Kennedy,Ancrum.

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Re: Andrew CRAWFORD - Ilford
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 September 06 15:18 BST (UK) »
Just received the birth certificate of Olive Eleanor Frances Crawford today,
confirms that her father was Andrew Crawford,master draper,
her mother Amy Amelia Crawford formerly Nicholls,
born at 45 Mansfield Road, Ilford,
I now need to get the marriage certificate from 1905.

Would that tell me if Andrew Crawford was previously married?
Amy Amelia Nicholls could be his second wife?

Andrew Crawford would have been 45yrs old when he married her.

thank you for any help,
Amanda,
Canada.
Robson,Hawick.
Dodds,Hawick
Huggan,Hawick.
Burns,Hawick.
Brash,Hawick.
Crawford,Lilliesleaf.
Hislop,Lilliesleaf.
Pollock,Roxburghshire.
Whillans,Wheelans,Scotland.
Kennedy,Ancrum.


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Re: Andrew CRAWFORD - Ilford
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 12 September 06 15:31 BST (UK) »
The wedding cert should state that Andrew was a widower, rather than "bachelor".  It will also give his age and occupation, which will help confirm that it's the same person - I think it's very likely Amy was his second wife, as everything else seems to fit.

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ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: Andrew CRAWFORD - Ilford
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 26 October 06 18:37 BST (UK) »
Thank you Rambler,
will post again when I receive marriage certificate,
Amanda.
Robson,Hawick.
Dodds,Hawick
Huggan,Hawick.
Burns,Hawick.
Brash,Hawick.
Crawford,Lilliesleaf.
Hislop,Lilliesleaf.
Pollock,Roxburghshire.
Whillans,Wheelans,Scotland.
Kennedy,Ancrum.

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Re: Andrew CRAWFORD - Ilford
« Reply #6 on: Friday 14 November 08 16:51 GMT (UK) »
Taking another look at my Crawford research, I now have the marriage certificate for Andrew which records him as a Widower age 45yrs, master draper of 45 Mansfield Rd, Ilford,
he married Amy Amelia Nicholls on 1st June 1905 at the Presbyterian Church, Oakfield Rd, Ilford.

Amy Nicholls was age 27yrs so could have had several children including Olive who was born Oct 2nd 1907, Amy's father was named James Joseph Nicholls,

any suggestions for finding other children of Andrew and Amy Amelia Crawford?

Amanda.
Canada.
Robson,Hawick.
Dodds,Hawick
Huggan,Hawick.
Burns,Hawick.
Brash,Hawick.
Crawford,Lilliesleaf.
Hislop,Lilliesleaf.
Pollock,Roxburghshire.
Whillans,Wheelans,Scotland.
Kennedy,Ancrum.

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Re: Andrew CRAWFORD - Ilford
« Reply #7 on: Friday 14 November 08 17:07 GMT (UK) »
Found a Jean A.I. Crawford (mothers maiden name Nicholls) born in Billericay, Essex in Sept. 1915.

Found this on freeBMD.

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Re: Andrew CRAWFORD - Ilford
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 15 November 08 23:54 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Sheila, I had not thought off checking the freeBMD site again,

I will try to order this cert over the next week or so,

In Scotland the family used the traditional naming pattern for children but it looks like Andrew did not continue with this,

Amanda.
Robson,Hawick.
Dodds,Hawick
Huggan,Hawick.
Burns,Hawick.
Brash,Hawick.
Crawford,Lilliesleaf.
Hislop,Lilliesleaf.
Pollock,Roxburghshire.
Whillans,Wheelans,Scotland.
Kennedy,Ancrum.