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HOWLETT in Suffolk
« on: Sunday 24 September 06 18:11 BST (UK) »
Hello, I've kind of kept my HOWLETT family research on the back burner for a while as it has been in a different county than the majority of my research but I've decided now to start it.

The oldest ancestor i can track is John Howlett, who appears aged 65 on the Mildenhall census of 1851. He is listed with his wife Elizabeth (56), his son Thomas (16 - my Gt Gt Gt Grandfather) and his daughter Elizabeth (14).

The census lists them as born in Ashfield - NFK, Sutton - CAM, Mindham - NFK and Neathersom, SFK respectively.

Now, i'm happy to re-read that as Ashfield SUFFOLK, Sutton CAMBS and possibly Mendham SUFFOLK but i'm stuck with the last one.

Also, these are all guesses and actually, i'd like to get some more information on the family.

I know that in 1855, Thomas married Caroline Clark at Mildenhall and at the time, his father was a labourer.

I know that Thomas and Caroline had a daughter, Elizabeth in 1856 who was my Gt Gt Grandmother (and i've followed her tracks, so i'm okay there) but i have no idea whether she had any siblings or any further aunts or uncles.

Thomas died a few years later and then widow Caroline Howlett remarried to Robert Coe of Prickwillow - that bit is also well covered.

Any info on the HOWLETT family of Suffolk is greatly appreciated.
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Re: HOWLETT in Suffolk
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 24 September 06 18:21 BST (UK) »
Heres a possible in 1841 Burnt Fen ,Lakenheath,Mildenhall Suffolk.
H0107 EN District 8 Page 8 Line 7.

John Howlett,50,Ag Lab.
Elizabeth Howlett,40.
James Howlett,15.
Robert Howlett,10.
Ellen Howlett,10.
Honora?Howlett,8.
Thomas Howlett,6.
Elizabeth Howlett,4.
All born in County (Remember ages are rounded down sometimes in 1841)

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Re: HOWLETT in Suffolk
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 24 September 06 18:31 BST (UK) »
Heres a possible in 1841 Burnt Fen ,Lakenheath,Mildenhall Suffolk.
H0107 EN District 8 Page 8 Line 7.

John Howlett,50,Ag Lab.
Elizabeth Howlett,40.
James Howlett,15.
Robert Howlett,10.
Ellen Howlett,10.
Honora?Howlett,8.
Thomas Howlett,6.
Elizabeth Howlett,4.
All born in County (Remember ages are rounded down sometimes in 1841)

Best Wishes Welsh Lady

Actually that's perfect as the family that Elizabeth Howlett (the grand-daughter of the head of the above family) married into was the Gilbert family and they owned/own a farm at Burnt Fen, Littleport. No wonder then that Thomas' widow Caroline (now Coe) turns up living next to her daughter.

thank you very much for that!
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Re: HOWLETT in Suffolk
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 24 September 06 18:44 BST (UK) »
From the Suffolk Burials Index:

John HOWLETT
age 76
bur 28 Feb 1861 in Mildenhall

Elizabeth HOWLETT
age 76
bur 28 Jan 1871 in Mildenhall
Notes: "Poplar Farm, Littleport Road"
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast


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Re: HOWLETT in Suffolk
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 24 September 06 18:51 BST (UK) »
Thanks dave, that is great news!
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Re: HOWLETT in Suffolk
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 24 September 06 19:06 BST (UK) »
Hi Andrew

You don't seem to have the "complete" family from 1851, so just in case ...

1851 Mildenhall, Suffolk
HO107/1793 folio 150 pp25-26

Address: "Burnt Fen"
(several households)
John Howlett, head, 65, ag lab, Ashfield Norfolk
Eliz do., wife, 56, Suffon Norfolk
Thos do., son, 16, Windham(?) Norfolk
Eliz do., daur, 14, Neathersom(?) Suffolk
Jas Woods, son in law, 30, ag lab, Windham(?) Norfolk
H(?) do., <daur?>, 24, Prickwillow Camb
Jas do., grandson, 5, Prickwillow Camb
C(something) do., grandson, 4, Mildenhall Suffolk
May (or Mary) do., granddaughter, 6m, Mildenhall Suffolk

I'm not sure of the birthplaces of Thomas, Elizabeth (daughter) or James (son-in-law)

It definitely looks more like Windham than Mendham. (The "i" is clearly dotted and there other Ms on the page.) But I assume you have Thomas's birthplace from other sources. "Neathersom" actually looks like "Neatherwin" but I can't find either place!
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Re: HOWLETT in Suffolk
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 24 September 06 19:19 BST (UK) »
Dave, once again thanks for this.

Thomas Howlett (the son of John Howlett) married Caroline Clark and her father was noted as "Alfred Woods, deceased" on their marriage certificate in 1855. This was a bit of a surprise as i was expecting a Mr Clark noted as Caroline's father.

So it's interesting to see the Woods family noted here.... but a generation too early... so that's even more puzzling as the Woods family should have been Thomas Howlett's father-in-law's family... yet here they are being son-in-law to Thomas' father.

As for Windham, that's okay.. because that could easily be Wymondham (pronounced Windham) in Norfolk.
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Re: HOWLETT in Suffolk
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 24 September 06 20:45 BST (UK) »
Hi

son in law sometimes meant step son in those days

regards
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Re: HOWLETT in Suffolk
« Reply #8 on: Monday 25 September 06 17:58 BST (UK) »
Hi

son in law sometimes meant step son in those days

regards
yokel

Indeed it did but that makes just as little sense as Son-in-Law.

Thomas Howlett didnt marry Caroline Clark (the noted daughter of Alfred Woods) until 1855. Therefore the appearance of related Woods, as related to Thomas is somewhat of a confusing surprise! :)
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