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can anyone help with finding imigration date
« on: Thursday 28 September 06 04:50 BST (UK) »
Hi I am currently researching my Moss Family I have found David Moss/Maass married to Margaret Johnston possible father to a John Emil Moss/Maass Married to Rose Matilda James, John and Rose are the parents of my grandfather William Stanley Moss. I have as follows:

John Mass born 1861 father David mother Margaret Johnston at Kingower

Maass  Wm Stanley  Birth  Father: Jno Emil  Mother Rose Matilda James  Born  Elmore Vic William Stanley Death: Father: John moss mother:Rose Matilda

Trying to find where this family came from and when they arrived in Australia This Family lived in Victoria but seemed to move around
any suggestions or help would be much appreciated

Cheers Raels
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Re: can anyone help with finding imigration date
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 28 September 06 05:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Raels,   a search of Prov unassisted passenger lists came up with only 1 David Moss coming to Australia age 19 in 1857 aboard the Ship  Sarah M

Not sure if this helps of confuses the issue

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Re: can anyone help with finding imigration date
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 28 September 06 08:09 BST (UK) »
You will already know most of the dates associated with William Stanley from your other searches and perhaps you also have the 2 service records digitised on NAA.
I do note however on his ww1 history that his motherRose, is NOK and is living at an address shown therein.
This suggests that John Emil, the father, was dead even though William is only 18 or so.
His death cert. would help you to confirm the link between the DAVID MOSS and Margaret where you have a doubt.
There is a nice letter in William's hand asking for copy of his discharge papers to qualify for Soldier Settlement scheme.Your other search thread on Cousin connect confirms that you know of his marriages etc.
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Re: can anyone help with finding imigration date
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 28 September 06 08:31 BST (UK) »
Hello  there

here is  the marriage  from  the Pioneer Index Victoria 1836-1888

David Moss  married Margaret Johnston 1860 reg no 3179


ther is  a number of  children  from  186 to  1869  they are listed as MASS
John Ralph   born 1861 Kingower     9049
Isabella        born 1862 News  143414
Annie            born 1864 news 10716
Margaret       born 1866 Sandy Crk  10178 died 1867
Maria            born 1868 Newstead   4571 died 1868 6 months
Fred             born 1868 Newstead     4572 died at I day
David           born 1869 Newstead 24120

then  the  surname  appears as MOSS
Amelia         born 1872 Seym 26386
William born 1874 died 8days 1874
Willim Ernest born 1875 Wang 26475
James George born 1878 Wang 5820

so  quite a  lot of children  to  this  couple

regards Jenn
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Re: can anyone help with finding imigration date
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 28 September 06 08:55 BST (UK) »
MMMmm, so John Ralph, not John Emil?
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Re: can anyone help with finding imigration date
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 28 September 06 11:04 BST (UK) »
Hi Raels

As I'm not sure whether trying to trace David Moss or John Emil MAASS, I'm assuming it's John Emil so I am passing on the following information.

Rose JAMES (born: Geelong) married John Emil MINAAS(S) (born: Bendigo) 1896 Reg: 1635

Emil MAASS born: Sandhurst (bendigo) 1870 to Mattheas MAASS and Anna Maria BERGER Reg: 25986
John Emil MAASS died Bendigo 1941aged 71 Reg: 15248 Parents unknown

John Emil MAASS and Rose Matilda JAMES' children:
William Stanley MAASS born: Elmore 1898 Reg: 18438 died Geelong 1980 Reg: 11985 (surname: MOSS)
John Leslie MAASS born: Bendigo 1906 Reg: 16024 died Heidelberg 1942 Reg: 7815 (surname: MOSS)
George Clifford MAASS born: Echuca 1910 Reg: 18995

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Re: can anyone help with finding imigration date
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 28 September 06 11:59 BST (UK) »
http://www.bencemtrust.com.au

A search at above  of the name Maass shows burials at Eaglehawk of man and infant which may be related to your family name interest- Maass
Maass ,1869 John.
Maass, 1867 Baby,male.
They are together
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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 28 September 06 12:18 BST (UK) »
Hello  there

well done  gennie  what  i found  wasnt  matching  up  with  the info  supplied

found a death  for
Matthew Maass aged 39  in 1882 reg no 5920 at Kyneton

parents  father  peter mther katherine  riskers

regards jenn

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SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 28 September 06 22:40 BST (UK) »
Hello

Matthias MAASS born Borg married Anna Maria Borgers born Holstein1866 reg no 4143 in victoria

children born  to  this couple

Johann born sandhurst 1869/11330  died 1869 5 months parents Matthews Maass Anna Berger

Emeil born Sandhurst 1870/255986
parents Mattheas Maass Anna Maria Berger

Wilhelm born Sandhurst 1874/25493
parents Matthias Maass Anna Maria Berger

regards jenn
When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.au