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Re: "Exiles" transported to Port Phillip 1845-1849
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 05 October 06 14:31 BST (UK) »
Hi Tony

Glad I could give you some information.  I make regular visits to the State Library and less regular visits to the PROV.  

I have the Vic Indexes as do many of the other rootschatters.  I was not sure what actual information you are seeking or already had.  We can search the indexes for you but need the list of names.
I will check the Passenger lists on Fiche when I go to the Library.  Now days you can actually copy them on to CDrom, so I'll see how I go.  

The trouble with the PROV is they don't do searches, you need to go there.  

I found a Thomas TOSSOL marrying Barbara BARNWALL in 1864.  Died 1868 aged 35, parents: Unknown. Wondered if that might be Thomas TOSSILL/TOSSELL who arrived aged 16 on "Joseph Somes"

If you wish information on any of the children of the couples i've posted let me know.

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Re: "Exiles" transported to Port Phillip 1845-1849
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 05 October 06 19:51 BST (UK) »
Hello Genni,

All this is great detail, simply because I can begin to create at least 6 more Biographies (Francis RUSHBROOK was already partially finished).   Names, ages (DOBs) for the children would be extremely helpful in making a more rounded, personalised life history........I have tried using the IGI online facility, and the CD-ROM "Australian Vital Records Index", but because ages etc. are rarely cited it is difficult to be certain you have the correct person.  The other major area of research is to ascertain whether or not they re-offended but where there is "family picture" it is not necessarily so important.

The names of those transported from Parkhurst Prison are specifically recorded on the Convicts to Australia website under the appropriate ship:

(1)   "Thomas Arbuthnot"
        http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/convicts/park8.html ;

(2)   "Eden" change park8 to park12;

(3)   "Maitland" change park8 to park7;

(4)   "Marion" change park8 to park10;

(5)   "Joseph Somes" change park8 to park9.

I wonder whether it would useful for me to take, say for example George WORT, and draft a standard formatted Biography for him which would then allow me more opportunity to show you exactly how much information I have and explain what I am trying to do.   This would probably best be achieved if we could correspond directly by email....mine is ..........at Southampton University........and (time for confessional) I am not absolutely sure how to pass such detail via RootsChat!!!

Anyway, do please let me know......I am quite excited, for with your help today I have increased my Port Phillip BIography portfolio by approximately 15%!!!   

I can only thank you

My regards

Tony








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Re: "Exiles" transported to Port Phillip 1845-1849
« Reply #11 on: Friday 06 October 06 00:26 BST (UK) »
hello  there Tony

please  remove  your  personal  email  address you are  leaving  your  self  open  to  scammers  and such  ask  folk  to  PM  you  and  then  give  them  your  persanol  email

a  suggestion  from  me  might be  that  we rc's  could at  least  do  lookups  when time  allows  for   the names of  the lads  and  give  you  info  ie  when  married  and  died etc  but  that  info  would  only  be  from  the indexs  of  course  and  a  lot  of  suppositions  would occur.  It might be best to save  doubling  up  that  maybe  a  volunteer  could  do  each  ship
I will put  my  hand  up  to do  one of  them  for  you
regards jenn
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TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
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Re: "Exiles" transported to Port Phillip 1845-1849
« Reply #12 on: Friday 06 October 06 03:50 BST (UK) »
Hello  again  Tony

there  is  a site  in Australia  called  "first Families"

I was  looking  at  the  boys  who  came  on the "Marion"  the very first  one
Robert Archman  one  of  his  family  has  him  on  this site  it is soemthing  for  you  to follow on with
I hope  this  link  will work  for you
http://pandora.nla.gov.au/pan/10421/20041220/www.firstfamilies2001.net.au/firstfamilyc249.html?id=Archman1682224379

i have  traced  him  on  the  indexs  so  have reference  numbers  if you need  them

regards jenn
When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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Re: "Exiles" transported to Port Phillip 1845-1849
« Reply #13 on: Friday 06 October 06 10:49 BST (UK) »
Hello Jenn

Just a quick note......how do I remove my email address please?

There has been some wonderful information posted this morning and I shall come back later today once I have had the chance to read it all and digest the contents.

Thank you so much for all your help

Regards 

Tony


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Re: "Exiles" transported to Port Phillip 1845-1849
« Reply #14 on: Friday 06 October 06 10:59 BST (UK) »
hey there  Tony
go  to  that message  and  click on modify  then delete  the address

regards jenn
When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.au

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Re: "Exiles" transported to Port Phillip 1845-1849
« Reply #15 on: Friday 06 October 06 11:09 BST (UK) »
Hello  there

when I had a  quick  look  for some  of   the lads  of  the "Marion" 
i  noted a John Creswell Hood  so  with  his  full  name given  tried  the  index  and  have  found a  James Creswell Hood  do  you  have access  your  end  to  the boys  names or  a you also  working  of  the "link"  you  have  posted

regards Jenn
When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.au

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Re: "Exiles" transported to Port Phillip 1845-1849
« Reply #16 on: Friday 06 October 06 11:37 BST (UK) »
Thanks Jenn

I have modified the message and deleted my email address.

John Cresswell HOOD is definitely ex-Parkhurst.  I have a copy of the Parkhurst Prison Register for the period 1838-1864 which is my "Bible" for basic information, then I check against the Convicts to Australia website and also Keith Clarke's "Convicts of the Port Phillip District"......this enables me to gather up as much detail as I can, such as "aka".   Very often I find christian names wrongly quoted, but in this case "Cresswell" is so unusual the 99% probability is that "James" is actually "John".

Another one traced......all my birthdays are coming in one!!

Once again my thanks

Tony

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Re: "Exiles" transported to Port Phillip 1845-1849
« Reply #17 on: Friday 06 October 06 12:01 BST (UK) »
Hello  Tony

with  your  records  of  the  boys  does  it  include  their parents  names?   that   will  help  with  knowing  for  sure  it  is  the right  bloke  if  his  death  does  list  parenets  names.
 Also  note  that  some  of  their ages  may be  incorrect  as  some have  married  very  young indeed

regards jenn
When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.au