NASH, 1861

[Sunnyhill]

Good on you Barty
 

[Sunnyhill]

Thanks Debbie! I have seen that marriage listed in BDM  but it is the only mention of John Read Nash I know of apart from on son Henry's birth cert. I don't have the wedding cert - guess it can be ordered? Anything you can find on John Read Nash would be great. I have found some READ families in the area which may be connected.
Sarah thought to have married three times - also to Richard Iles and Charles Young [1865 Little Coxwell] but two possible matches in 1881 census as below.
Sarah's father should be Humphrey Moore - does it say Smith? Or is that his occupation.
Would also like some proof that of the parents of Mary Bowles m Humphrey Moore [being John and Mary - as that has been queried].
Ta!
David

1841
Mary Mond [MOORE]
Age:
40
born:
Berkshire

Parish:
Shrivenham

John Holictay
87
Charles Mond
17
Humphrey Mond
40
Humphrey Mond
9
Martha Mond
6
Mary Mond
40

1851
Mary Moore' Age:54
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Humphrey
 born: Fernham

 parish: Longcot

Charles Mare [MOORE]
20
Humphrey Mare
52
Humphrey Mare
18  apprentice blacksmith
Mary Mare
54


1861 Faringdon
Humphrey MOORE
Age:
64
 born:
Longcot

Civil parish:
Longcot


Charles Moore
31
Humphrey Moore
28
Mary Moore
64
Mary Ann Moore  daughter in law  [Humphrey jnr's wife] b Burton on the Water, Gloucestershire
20


1881
Elizabeth Read
Age: 58
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
 born: Longcott

 Parish: Longcott
 address:
The Lane
Married
Field WorkER

James Jeffries
9
Elizabeth Read
58
John Read carpenter b Bishopstone, Wilts
73
John Read
13
Mary Read
17

1891
 John Read
Age:
63

Spouse's Name:
Elizabeth
 born:
Bishopstone, Wiltshire

Parish:
Longcot

Neighbors:  Joseph Jordan 29, b Longcot and wife Mary  [rels - ****]

Franci Jefferier, grandson
10 b Longcot, Berkshire
James Jefferies, grandson
19 b Longcot, Berkshire
Elizabeth Read
60 b Longcot, Berkshire
John Read retired carpenter
63
John Read, son,  ag lab
23 b Longcot, Berkshire, ,

1841 England Census 
about Elizabeth Read
Age:
45
 born:
Wiltshire

Civil Parish: Fovant

Elizabeth Read
45
James Read
16
John Read
55
John Read
13
Stephen Read
8


1851
 John Read
Age:
23

Relation:
Servant
 born:
Trowbridge, Wiltshire


Civil Parish:
St Pancras,
Middlesex


1871
 John Read
Age:
42

Relation:
Head
Spouse's Name:
Elizabeth [nee Jefferies? Father Isaac?? - 41 census]
Where born:
Bishopstone, Wiltshire

Civil Parish:
Longcot

Roseanna Jefferis
 wife’s daughter,
b Faringdon, Berkshire
13
Elizabeth Read
 b Longcot, Berkshire
44
John Read
42
John Read
 b Longcot, Berkshire
3
Mary Read
b Longcot, Berkshire
7

1851 England Census
Name: Sarah Nash
Age: 27
Relation: Pauper
born: Longcote

Civil parish: Stratton St Margaret

1861
 Sarah Iles
Age:
37
Relation:
Wife
Spouse's name:
Richard
born: Stratton

Civil parish:
Stratton St Margaret

Emma Iles 1
Richard Iles 36
Sarah Iles 37


1871 census
Stratton St Margaret
Richard Iles 46
Sarah Iles [wife] 47        both Ag Labs b Stratton
Emma Iles  11

1881
With Richard Iles [as Sarah Iles]  in Highworth St, Highworth and daughter Emma 21 b Stratton

Emma Iles 21
Richard Iles 56
Birth:  abt 1825 - Stratton St Margaret, Wiltshire
Sarah Iles 58

1881 England Census
about Sarah Young
Age:
61
Relation:
Head
Where born:
Longcot

Civil parish:
Little Coxwell
 (Widower)
Ag Lab

Humphry Moore 50
Sarah Young 61

1841 census Stratton - a Richard Iles, 18 and Henry Iles, 15, both b Stratton,  live with Wm and Elizabeth Seymour.

1851 census
78 Upper Stratton is 26yo, head of house [ag] with mother 'E' Iles, 67 b Minall, [pauper late ag lab] WILTS and sister "A" Iles, 23 b Stratton [servant out of place]
Charles Young is neighbour [#80] age 45 b Lambourn, Berks with wife "A" Young 45 b Purton both Ag lab

1861 census
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Sarah
Where born: Stratton

 parish: Stratton St Margaret

Emma Iles 1
Richard Iles 36
Sarah Iles 37

1891
Richard Iles
 66
Relation: Head
 born: Stratton St Margaret

Civil parish:
Stratton St Margaret

Richard Iles
Age: 66
Relation: Head
Where born: Stratton St Margaret
Civil parish: Stratton St Margaret

Emma Iles [daughter] b Str St Marg 30
Richard Iles 66

[DebbieG]

Hi David - well I have really tried with your Nash family,  and I am afraid I am not comming up with much at all.  I can't find Henry Read Nash (b 1855 Stratton)  in any census,  and the only positive sighting I have of Sarah (nee Moore) his mother is in Stratton workshouse in 1851 with her 2 daughter Helen (Ellen) and Rosanna,  I can find Ellen in all the following census and Rosanna is with her in 1871,  but other than that I am not coming up with much at all.  I looked at the Richard Iles & Sarah thing but I am not at all sure about it her age and place of birth are consistantly out. 

On the Humphrey Moore to Mary Bowles part,  first yes the Smith part of the marriage record refers to his occupation not his name.  I am fairly confident that Mary is the one baptised 22nd Feb 1799 the daughter of John & Mary Bowles, farmer  her brother John was baptised on the same day and the records make it plain that he was 5 weeks old but in her case it says -- years unfortunatly the number is missing,  there is the added information that Mary the mothers maiden name was Forty,  A likely birth for her in 1797 would fit with the dates of others of their children.

I will mull this over and see if I can come up with anything else

 

Debbie

[Sunnyhill]

Thanks very much Debbie! That's pretty good proof on Mary Bowles parentage. What record did you find those details on please so I can use it as a reference.

My great grandfather Henry Nash I have only found on only one English census..... 1881. After that he lived in Ireland. John Read Nash's children's surnames were just NASH. I have records of their mother Sarah from other census years as in my last post.
Thanks a million for all this!!!!
David

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[DebbieG]

David - the Bowles baptism details are from the transcripts of the registers of Longcot produced by the OFHS

 

Debbie

[Sunnyhill]

Looks like Wm's parents:

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   Sorry!

[Sunnyhill]

On the Humphrey Moore to Mary Bowles part,  first yes the Smith part of the marriage record refers to his occupation not his name.  I am fairly confident that Mary is the one baptised 22nd Feb 1799 the daughter of John & Mary Bowles, farmer  her brother John was baptised on the same day and the records make it plain that he was 5 weeks old but in her case it says -- years unfortunatly the number is missing,  there is the added information that Mary the mothers maiden name was Forty,  A likely birth for her in 1797 would fit with the dates of others of their children.

Hi Debbie
This doesn't actually prove that my Mary m Humphrey was daughter of John Bowles and Mary Forty does it? Sorry for lack of clear thinking......

[DebbieG]

Hi - no it doesn't prove it,  however before the start of civil registration in 1837 often reasonable probability is the best you can have,  sometimes you get lucky - such as if you could find a will for John Bowles which mentioned his married daughter Mary Moore.  We know from the census that the likly year of birth for Mary is 1797, place Longcot,  there is not a baptism for a Mary Bowles in that year but there is one a bit later and the entry infers that she was x yrs old - its a shame the x is not specified I am working from transcripts it might be worth getting someone to check the original if possible to see if they can work it out.

Sorry best I can do

Debbie

[Pincushion]

Hi ...we have a bible that dates back to 1876 with lots of nash's in it , trying to trace it's rightful owners has we found it in a field in Lincolnshire.