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Frederick Charles Bearman
« on: Monday 16 October 06 12:47 BST (UK) »
I am completely new to the Canada board so apologies in advance if I appear to be an idiot. :P

Someone on Genes Reunited suggested my great grandfather's brother Frederick Charles Bearman might have a Canadian connection. 

So I looked at the Canadian resources board and searched a few of the links given.  Bingo!  I have found Attestation papers for the Canadian Overseas Expeditionary Force.  Dated 2nd Jan 1915, Fred Charles gives his next of kin as Frederick William Bearman, which is the name of my 2 x great grandfather and his dads address as Ladywell London, which is Lewisham apparently and not a million miles from Greenwich where the family originated.  So I think I have the right man.

Two questions 1.  Where do I go now ?  I looked at CWGC, it doesn't look like he died in that conflict.  Do you think he stayed in Canada, whereabouts is he likely to be, how do I search BMD's ?

and 2.  On the attestation paper there was something that puzzled me.  2nd Page deals with height, description etc and religion.  The form has the word YEW typed in the space slightly above the religiious denominations section, just under his hair colour.  Is he Jewish ?
It definitely says YEW not Jew.

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Greenwich, London-BEARMAN/JOHNSON/GREENE Barking Essex-BEARMAN
Manchester- NEWALL/Newell or variants, LOLLEY/Lolly,WALL
Shropshire- WALL
Cheshire- MADDOCK/CARTER/PERCIVAL
Windsor, Berkshire - MILES
Buckinghamshire - MILES
Monmouthshire - JAMES & MORRIS
Herefordshire- FLEET
Yorkshire- SHIPLEY & GRAY
Sussex- EDWARDS & KNIGHT
Wiltshire/Hampshire-WATERS
Wolverhampton area Staffordshire- ASTON
Staffordshire- LOLLEY

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Re: Frederick Charles Bearman
« Reply #1 on: Monday 16 October 06 13:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Siouxzie,

Welcome to the Canada Board, and no one ever looks like an idiot here  :)

I looked at the second page of the attestation papers and I would say that it is a typo and it should read "yes" for Church of England.  The "s" and "w" are close on the keyboard.

You can order his full attestation papers which would consist of a lot more information.

It looks like he signed up in Weyburn, Saskatchewan.

Karen
Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham<br />Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham<br />Shorter - Surrey<br />Dyer - Devon<br />Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland<br />Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Gloucestershire

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Re: Frederick Charles Bearman
« Reply #2 on: Monday 16 October 06 14:25 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that Karen,

Yes, "YES" of course...I can see that now, I didn't think he was Jewish.
I think I will order the attestation papers then.

Also thanks for giving me the area he signed up in.

I'm quite excited this is the first of my great grandfather's siblings I have more information on  than just a birthdate.

Siouxzie
Greenwich, London-BEARMAN/JOHNSON/GREENE Barking Essex-BEARMAN
Manchester- NEWALL/Newell or variants, LOLLEY/Lolly,WALL
Shropshire- WALL
Cheshire- MADDOCK/CARTER/PERCIVAL
Windsor, Berkshire - MILES
Buckinghamshire - MILES
Monmouthshire - JAMES & MORRIS
Herefordshire- FLEET
Yorkshire- SHIPLEY & GRAY
Sussex- EDWARDS & KNIGHT
Wiltshire/Hampshire-WATERS
Wolverhampton area Staffordshire- ASTON
Staffordshire- LOLLEY

Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Frederick Charles Bearman
« Reply #3 on: Monday 16 October 06 15:36 BST (UK) »
Hello hello

  Just thought I'd throw my 2 cents in. -- If he signed up in Weyburn he MAY have been apart of the South Saskatchewan Regiment (once you order the attestation papers).  His war record/file is still probably in Ottawa if you wish to search there.

As well I found a Frank Bearman in the homestead index for Saskatchewan

:)

Jeff


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Re: Frederick Charles Bearman
« Reply #4 on: Monday 16 October 06 16:16 BST (UK) »
Thanks Jeff

I'd love to find some Bearman's connected to me living in somewhere so exotic sounding as Saskatchewan.

Siouxzie
Greenwich, London-BEARMAN/JOHNSON/GREENE Barking Essex-BEARMAN
Manchester- NEWALL/Newell or variants, LOLLEY/Lolly,WALL
Shropshire- WALL
Cheshire- MADDOCK/CARTER/PERCIVAL
Windsor, Berkshire - MILES
Buckinghamshire - MILES
Monmouthshire - JAMES & MORRIS
Herefordshire- FLEET
Yorkshire- SHIPLEY & GRAY
Sussex- EDWARDS & KNIGHT
Wiltshire/Hampshire-WATERS
Wolverhampton area Staffordshire- ASTON
Staffordshire- LOLLEY

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Re: Frederick Charles Bearman
« Reply #5 on: Monday 16 October 06 16:32 BST (UK) »
Trust me if you lived here you wouldn't find it as exotic  :D

I couldn't help but notice your family interests are Miles from Berks.  I am doing researching in a part of Hampshire/Berks that has a bunch of Miles on it??  Any connections to the MIles family in Kingsclere?

To inquire to see who Frank Bearman was (year of birth etc.) go to this addy and they will probably be able to help you out. It is the Saskatchewan Archives Board, they hold the homestead files where I found the Frank Bearman.

http://www.saskarchives.com/web/contact.html

Jeff

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Re: Frederick Charles Bearman
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 17 October 06 15:33 BST (UK) »
Oh, that exotic place we call Saskatchewn... 8) Nothing like a few feet of snow
to get you feeling all warm and cozy, is there?  Well you've got to give them
credit for their endurance & tough skin, anyway...
  I'm from Saskatchewan, but I live in Manitoba now, so I haven't access to
anything but online resources which are few...plus, your man likely came on the
scene just prior to enlisting, which makes it even tougher as if he wasn't there
 for the 1911 census, there are only births available for vitals statistics.....and
let's put it this way, my oldest aunt who just died last year at 99.... was finally
put on the database this year ... ( it's a hundred years or more)  Marriages
 have to be more than 75 years ago but aren't even available yet. ..

  I did however find another Saskatchewn Bearman, closer to mid-century over
in Swift Current...he is in a photograph...found here: http://scaa.sk.ca/sain/

Both places are in Southern Saskatchewn...but Swift current is in the Western
side, and Weyburn further to the Eastern side...
Now to put things into perspective....you could probably fit 2 of the U.K. into
this Province....so proximity changes from that point of view... ::)

There also isn't a huge chance that he came back to Sask. after the war, but
may have been staying with a relative there at time of signup....(Since it was
in January, especially...BRRRRR)...But hey, Manitoba gets even more snow in
winter and men returned here, so you never know...Haha ;D

J.J.
 
 
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Re: Frederick Charles Bearman
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 17 October 06 15:36 BST (UK) »
There are 3 listings for living Bearman all in Southern Sask....on this site
http://findaperson.canada411.ca/   Regina is between the 2 mentioned
locales with Moosejaw further South.

Sorry couldn't be of more help..All the Best  J.J.
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Re: Frederick Charles Bearman
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 17 October 06 15:45 BST (UK) »
Thank you J.J. for putting that into perspective for me.  Although isn't Winnepeg known better as Winterpeg???

  Just for clarification as well there are a few Bearman obits up in my neck of the woods in Saskatoon will have a look see when I have a moment.

Jeff