Elisabeth Middlemiss

[stuart robson]

Looking for birth record of Elisabeth Middlemiss.

Her marriage record from what i think is one of the farms at Floors Castle of November 10 1911 lists her parents as Henry and Catherine Lamb and gives her a birth date of about 1879.

Have tried searching for the abode of Henry and Catherine in 1881 and 1891 census in scotland, but no success. Can not find the pair or a widowed Catherine.

Anyone know of this couple? Or perhaps more fittingly what someone called Henry might have gone by? Or maybe i misread the record?

[AMBLY]

Hi Stuart

It's not clear form your post: is this right:

Elisabeth MIDDLEMISS born abt 1879 - marriage 1911 Roxburgh states:
parents: Henry MIDDLEMISS? and Catherine LAMB?

Did the marriage identify Henry and Catherine as deceased?
What was Henry's occupation, if listed?
Who witnessed the wedding (poss siblings?)

Cheers
AMBLY

[stuart robson]

I got the image of the marriage record from Scotland's people.
Statutory marriages 793/00 0021 Page 11
 
The marriage is recorded in the Parish of Kelso in the County of Roxburgh.
10th November 1911 at what looks like FLoors Farm.
Her profession is listed as dairymaid.
Her parents are listed as what looks like Henry and Catherine Lamb. He is listed as a Farm Servant
The witnesses are a J Trotter and a Margaret Middlemiss, possibly a sister?

Having a closer look at the image the mother's maiden name may well be Wilson and i found the wedding record at GROS 793/00 0026 married in 1876 of a Thomas and Catherine.

When i look at the image i am still convinced it reads Henry and not Thomas. Anyone seen any other instances whereby a Henry and a Thomas can be misread? I'd post the image here, but not sure if i infringe copyright in doing so.

[MonicaL]

A couple of things:

1. I think this is Elizabeth's mother's birth entry:

CATHERINE LAMB WILSON     Birth:  01 JAN 1859  Kelso, Roxburgh, Scotland
Parents: Father: ROBERT WILSON    Mother:  JANE ARCHIBALD

This may explain why you are getting both names Lamb/Wilson coming up.

2. If the marriage cert for Elizabeth is difficult to read due to faintness of writing and legibility, you should contact SP and request a paper copy which can make a huge difference in terms of reading the entry.

3. There are no details I can see (birth/marriage/death) on SP for a Henry Mid*m*ss (picking up on all variants!). Variants for Henry are really only Harry never Thomas. If this is one of the areas that is hard to read from the image on line, hopefully the paper cert. will confirm the correct name....which I think from the what I have found is probably Thomas.

4. You have an entry of marriage between a Thomas and a Catherine.  I have found their 1881 Census entry. They have had a daughter Elizabeth, also mother in law Jane Archilbald (mother of Catherine Lamb Wilson above?) is living with them:

Thomas MIDDLEMASS, 31, head, b. Yetholm, Roxburgh, Scotland, Agri. labourer
Catherine, 22, wife,  b. Kelso, Roxburgh, Scotland
Andrew, 4, b. Kelso, Roxburgh, Scotland
Janet, 3, b. Roxburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland
Elizabeth, 1, b. Roxburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland
Jane ARCHIBALD, 61, married, Crailing, Roxburgh, Scotland

Dwelling: Trows, Roxburgh, Roxburgh


So everything fits, just the issue of Thomas v. Henry which hopefully is due to illegibility of the writing on the image you have.

Regards.

Monica

[MonicaL]

I forgot to add, there is an entry on SP that would fit with the previous details:

1879 - MIDDLEMISS ELIZABETH NOBLE   ROXBURGH/ROXBURGH   GROS REF: 803/00 0012   

Monica

[MonicaL]

If we have the right Elizabeth with father Thomas, from his birth entry on IGI, her name makes sense (you probably have this if you viewed the marriage cert for Thomas and Catherine):

THOMAS MIDDLEMASS  Birth: 26 FEB 1849  Yetholm, Roxburgh, Scotland
Parents: Father: ANDREW MIDDLEMASS Mother: ELIZABETH NOBLE

Monica

[Beckey]

Hi Stuchil,

Have you had a look at FreeCen 1851,
Thomas son 1 Yetholm, Roxboro.

father Andrew, mother Elizabeth

[stuart robson]

thanks for all that, i'll get a paper copy of the entry and see if it looks more like Thomas than Henry. If it is, I have had  a big helping hand. Thank you

[hawickborn]

Hi,
You may have this all sorted out by now, but....
Just a note on Thomas Middlemiss...he is the youngest son of Andrew and Elizabeth Middlemiss nee Noble. He was born in Yetholm around 1850. His sister Agnes ended up being the mother of Agnes Middlemiss (no father noted), who married David Walker my great-grandfather.  How far did you get? Andrew and Elizabeth were in Northumberland for a few years.
Hawickborn