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YOUNG, Emery. Invernesshire
« on: Thursday 26 October 06 07:56 BST (UK) »
Hi all,
Am hoping that some kind person out there in Scotland may be able to find out some information on Emery YOUNG, b 1832 Invernesshire and his family of origin for me. He was a labourer.
He emigrated to South Australia in about 1853, but his father's name was not given on his marriage certificate.(He married in SA). I do not know if his whole family emigrated, or only him, but will search for shipping records to SA next.  I have only just received his death certificate, and finally know where he actually came from.

Any help to find out information from the Scottish branch would be much appreciated.
Thank you,
B
researching:YOUNGS/YOUNG 1800's>Canada>USA>Aus:
CASTLE, Wickhambreaux area Kent>Aus:
CORKE/CORK, Kent, ENG >  AUST
SUTER, Birmingham, Warwickshire>Aus
TAYLOR, STOREY, DAVIES, BROWN, HOLROYD, POTTS, Manchester, Eng
KAY, Manchester
SHEA Co Cork Ireland >O'SHEA NSW AUST:
DONNELLY, co Tyrone Ireland>Oz:
HURRELL, Barnstaple, DEV > NSW AUST:
COFFEY, IRE; London>NSW, AUST
MOYES, unknown >AUST
MILLARD, BLAKE, BASCOMB: ENG
MILLER, SCT>Oz
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Re: YOUNG, Emery. Invernesshire
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 26 October 06 11:33 BST (UK) »
Hi B

I cannot see anything for an Emery YOUNG in all of IGI (only 24 entries with Emery and variants as first name) and the 1841 Census. I've looked at name variants also for EMERY: Amer, Imry, Emmor etc.

The closest I can see is an Emery MacDonald b. 1832 in Inverness-shire on the 1841 Census. There are a few other Emery's but all with a different surname???

Regards.

Monica
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Re: YOUNG, Emery. Invernesshire
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 26 October 06 11:35 BST (UK) »
I wonder if Emery was his middle name (that he may have chosen to go by) rather than his first (christened) name?

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Re: YOUNG, Emery. Invernesshire
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 26 October 06 11:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Like Monica, I've searched the OPRs, 1841 and 1851 and can't find him - or an E* Young.

What exactly does the death cert  say? Do you have any info from  immigration records?

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Re: YOUNG, Emery. Invernesshire
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 26 October 06 13:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Monica and Gadget,
Thank you both very much for going to that trouble. I hadn't actually thought to check the IGI again after finding out Emery came from Scotland, as i hadn't been able to find him on a broad search before.

Unfortunately, after putting up my request, i spent all afternoon going through shipping passenger lists to SA trying to find him, and have had no luck so far at all. If i can find him, then i will try to find out more about his journey and origins if possible. I have previously tried other states shipping just in case he came to SA from another state.

Although there is only the single name Emery on his death certificate, and on his marriage record, (and also on the birth records of his children) I guess that he could have been ........ Emery, and used his second name. I thought with such an uncommon name he would be a lot easier to find.  ???

In one record (in SA) it was spelt as Emory and his surname is written as "Youngs" on his death certificate, though that is definitely incorrect.

All that the death certificate says, apart from the death, residence and undertaker details, were that he was age 76 (on Oct 21st 1908, when he died), labourer, born Invernesshire Sotland, in Oz for 55 years (so estimate he came out 1853, give or take a year). And that he had the 13 children out here (whose details I have - was hoping to track down some of their descendants and hopefully find out more about him, but no luck there either yet. Some of his grandsons in other branches also include the name Emery as a second name)

I wonder if his mother's name may have been MacDonald if you found an Emery MacDonald born 1832 Inverness. perhaps she was an unmarried mum???? Do you happen to have any other details of that family? How big was Invernesshire back then?

Thank you very much,
cheers,    :)
Barb
researching:YOUNGS/YOUNG 1800's>Canada>USA>Aus:
CASTLE, Wickhambreaux area Kent>Aus:
CORKE/CORK, Kent, ENG >  AUST
SUTER, Birmingham, Warwickshire>Aus
TAYLOR, STOREY, DAVIES, BROWN, HOLROYD, POTTS, Manchester, Eng
KAY, Manchester
SHEA Co Cork Ireland >O'SHEA NSW AUST:
DONNELLY, co Tyrone Ireland>Oz:
HURRELL, Barnstaple, DEV > NSW AUST:
COFFEY, IRE; London>NSW, AUST
MOYES, unknown >AUST
MILLARD, BLAKE, BASCOMB: ENG
MILLER, SCT>Oz
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Re: YOUNG, Emery. Invernesshire
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 26 October 06 13:16 BST (UK) »
Hi Barb

Invernessshire was/is quite extensive:

http://scotlandsfamily.com/parish-map-inverness.htm

Stretching  from Inverness in the East to the outer Islands in the West.

I'll have a look for Macdonalds.

Gadget


PS No Emery Macdonald on the IGI for 1830 - 1834
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Re: YOUNG, Emery. Invernesshire
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 26 October 06 14:34 BST (UK) »
Wow  :o that is a big area!!! Looks predominantly like islands. Thank you so much for the link to the map.

Can you suggest any way of narrowing down where in Invernesshire he may have come from? (like are there any lists that you know of which have population density for particular names in different places?)

Would you mind having a look and seeing if there are any YOUNGE or YOUNGS in Invernesshire in the records you have access to? Just trying a long shot- perhaps it was Younge or Youngs changed over the years to Young. Thank you.
cheers,
Barb
researching:YOUNGS/YOUNG 1800's>Canada>USA>Aus:
CASTLE, Wickhambreaux area Kent>Aus:
CORKE/CORK, Kent, ENG >  AUST
SUTER, Birmingham, Warwickshire>Aus
TAYLOR, STOREY, DAVIES, BROWN, HOLROYD, POTTS, Manchester, Eng
KAY, Manchester
SHEA Co Cork Ireland >O'SHEA NSW AUST:
DONNELLY, co Tyrone Ireland>Oz:
HURRELL, Barnstaple, DEV > NSW AUST:
COFFEY, IRE; London>NSW, AUST
MOYES, unknown >AUST
MILLARD, BLAKE, BASCOMB: ENG
MILLER, SCT>Oz
HOOD Belfast, IRE >SCT>AUST
NEILSON, Lanarkshire, SCT> AUST

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Re: YOUNG, Emery. Invernesshire
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 26 October 06 15:24 BST (UK) »
Hi Barb

This is a bit difficult since neither name is really what I would say is 'Scottish', especially not Highland. I did a quick check and found most Youngs were in Inverness and surrounding area itself.

The period you are talking about covers the Highland Clearances when many Highlanders moved. Alternatively, his father could have been army and stationed in Inverness at the time. It really is needle and haystacks.

Sorry.

Gadget
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Re: YOUNG, Emery. Invernesshire
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 26 October 06 15:55 BST (UK) »
Thanks anyway G, very much appreciate you checking for me. What were the "Highland Clearances"?
cheers,
Barb
researching:YOUNGS/YOUNG 1800's>Canada>USA>Aus:
CASTLE, Wickhambreaux area Kent>Aus:
CORKE/CORK, Kent, ENG >  AUST
SUTER, Birmingham, Warwickshire>Aus
TAYLOR, STOREY, DAVIES, BROWN, HOLROYD, POTTS, Manchester, Eng
KAY, Manchester
SHEA Co Cork Ireland >O'SHEA NSW AUST:
DONNELLY, co Tyrone Ireland>Oz:
HURRELL, Barnstaple, DEV > NSW AUST:
COFFEY, IRE; London>NSW, AUST
MOYES, unknown >AUST
MILLARD, BLAKE, BASCOMB: ENG
MILLER, SCT>Oz
HOOD Belfast, IRE >SCT>AUST
NEILSON, Lanarkshire, SCT> AUST