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Offline aghadowey

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Re: Germany: Records of German Musicians
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 14 August 08 16:28 BST (UK) »
No Winsburg listed (map covers Frankfort-Luxembourg).
There's a Hockweiler about 10 miles south east of Trier.
Can't see Nunsweiler but there's a Nuhweiler (east of Wadern) and Nonnweiler (north-east of Wadern).

Just a thought- if Winsburg was near German-French border and is now in France the name was probably changed to a French sounding one.
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Re: Germany: Records of German Musicians
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 14 August 08 16:39 BST (UK) »
Do you think they meant Windsberg (east of Zweibruecken and Nuenschweiler) as it is now called? Just south of the A8.

I think we need to consult an old map.

I also came across the reference to a marriage of Margaretha zur Winsburg in Trier in 1580.


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Re: Germany: Records of German Musicians
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 14 August 08 16:49 BST (UK) »
I have also stumbled across that one:

WINSBURG Margaretha St. Gangolf (Church) 1580 LUTZERATH Christoph

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Re: Germany: Records of German Musicians
« Reply #21 on: Friday 15 August 08 09:23 BST (UK) »
I see that Trier (where Margaretha WINSBURG married Christoph LUTZERATH at St. Gangolf (Church) in 1580) is pretty close to Windsberg.

Makes you think.... ;)


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Re: Germany: Records of German Musicians
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 26 September 10 05:12 BST (UK) »
Myk - Almost all Winsbergs around the world can trace their ancestry to 2 Jewish blacksmiths from Germany who moved to what is now Lithuania in the 1700s.  Variations of the name include Windsberg, Winzberg and possibly Vinzberg.  It is possible that the name refers to the town they came from, but I would not put much trust in using that fact.  During much of this time the German Empire stretched to what is currently Lithuania, so it is quite possible that your ancestors may have come from this same family.  In the late 1800s many (if not most) members of the Winsburg family emigrated to Chicago, Illinois and New Orleans, Louisiania; Montreal, Quebec, Canada; South Africa and Israel.  I suspect that any that remained in the area perished during the Holocaust (one definitely did in Lodz, Poland).  May I ask how you know that this particular ancestor was Jewish? - RossW in PHL

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Re: Germany: Records of German Musicians
« Reply #23 on: Monday 27 September 10 19:25 BST (UK) »
RossW, thats very interesting about the Winsberg history. I would be interested to know how you seem to know so much about the name? Are you Ross Winsberg??? :)

Can you tell me more about these 2 Blacksmiths, and where the information was found?

My ancestor Philip was born around 1829, so his Father (also Philip) I am guessing, would have been born around 20-25 years before that, so around 1809-1804.

Where in Germany did the people you refer to move from in Germany?

If you read the rest of this thread you will see that my belief that they were Jewish could be wrong, but maybe there is something in it after all?

Please tell me more!

Mike

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Re: Germany: Records of German Musicians
« Reply #24 on: Monday 27 September 10 19:27 BST (UK) »
My ancestor Philip Winsberg moved from Germany (I assume) to England around 1849 because he got married in Liverpool in that year.

Mike