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Minnie Alice Gates - can you help me find her birth please?
« on: Monday 20 November 06 06:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi all!

Minnie Alice Gates was my husband's Grandmother. Try as I can, I have been unable to find details of her birth. I have marriage and death details for her and I have found births for siblings. But our dear Minnie Alice..... ::) ::)

Minnie Alice's parents were Emma Jane GATES, nee BROWN, and Henry GATES Her family lived in Western NSW. Many of her siblings were born in Wilcannia. Minnie died in 1913. Minnie was aged about 28 when she died.

Hoping someone can locate her birth details.

Elsie


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Re: Minnie Alice Gates - can you help me find her birth please?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 20 November 06 06:34 GMT (UK) »
hello  there Elsie

wher were  her parents from  please

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Re: Minnie Alice Gates - can you help me find her birth please?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 20 November 06 06:41 GMT (UK) »
hello  there Elsie

disregard  the question 
I can see that children  were born  in NSW before  and after  Minnie  birth year

not  in Qld  or Victoria  sorry

regards jenn
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SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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Re: Minnie Alice Gates - can you help me find her birth please?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 20 November 06 07:42 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for looking Jenn.

Her parents married in 1877. Both were born in SA. Makes me wonder now if they might have been in SA at the time of her birth.  ::) ::) Seems improbable. It was a long way to travel.

Elsie


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Re: Minnie Alice Gates - can you help me find her birth please?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 20 November 06 07:47 GMT (UK) »
hello  there

I couldnt  find a birth in south australia  either

it  may  not  have  been  registered  or  mayvbe  didn't  make  the indexs  for some reason???

regards jenn
When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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Re: Minnie Alice Gates - can you help me find her birth please?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 20 November 06 07:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jenn!

I have been so focussed on NSW because Wilcannia and surrounds was all we ever heard about . I have since learnt, much to our surprise, that the Gates and Brown families were all from SA. I wonder about the possibility of Minnie being born en route. Maybe she was slightly older than I was lead to believe.

Would you mind checking please to see if her parents were married in SA? Emma's parents were Thomas and Helen (Ellen) Brown and Harry's were Elizabeth Urne and Henry Gates.

You never know...

Elsie

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Re: Minnie Alice Gates - can you help me find her birth please?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 20 November 06 09:21 GMT (UK) »
Hello Elsie

Thomas Henry Brown aged 25 fatherGeorge Brown
married Hellen Scutchings aged 17 father James Scutchings
1/5/1857 at St Mark(Penwortham) CLAre 30/475

Emma Jane Brown born 8/3/1858 River Wakefield  Gil
13/523 father Thomas H Brown mother Ellen Scutchery

Henry Oscar Gates aged 35 S grooms father unrecorded
married Elizabeth Urne aged 18 S fathers name unrecorded
10/3/1851 St Mary Church Sturt Ade 6/235

but  I cannot find  any children  to  this couple born  in south australia.


regards jenn
When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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Re: Minnie Alice Gates - can you help me find her birth please?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 20 November 06 11:39 GMT (UK) »
Jenn...that's interesting.

I have Henry jnr's death certificate in front of me and Henry Gates and Elizabeth Urne are noted as his parents. His birthplace is given as Yankallia, SA, which I assume should be Yankallila. Also noted is that he lived in South Australia for 20 years, NSW for 50 years and Victoria for 10. He died in Feb 1932 in Mildura, so that would mean he was born circa 1852. Henry was 80 when he died.

He married Emma when he was 25 in Wilcannia, NSW. That's where I got the 1877 for their marriage year from. Minnie was their 4th child. It seems strange the other births were recorded and not hers.

Elsie




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Re: Minnie Alice Gates - can you help me find her birth please?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 20 November 06 11:55 GMT (UK) »
hello  ther Elsie

did  you get  the wedding certificate at all?

regards jenn
When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.au