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Heath Family Mystery
« on: Monday 27 November 06 19:56 GMT (UK) »
Hello,

I wonder if someone can help me please. I am trying to reseearch the Heaths who originated (to the best of my knowlelge) in Staffordshire.

Samuel Heath was born in 1831 in Cheddleton, one of 5 known children. I have been through the censuses & cant decide if his father was George or William, as it seems a bit confusing. In  the 1851 census printed image he was described as a servant, but on viewing the original, I think that was a mistake as it appears to read "son" there. Can someone please help by deciphering the information & also tell me what information is available for his parents. I would also appreciate any information on his wife. According to my information, her first name was Sarah & she was born about 1832 in Merebrook, Staffs.

Thanks in anticipation.

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Re: Heath Family Mystery
« Reply #1 on: Monday 27 November 06 20:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi mrsd

To start this off,  the 1851 Samuel HEATH    listed in the household of William HEATH  is definitely described as a Ser(vant) age 19, as are the 2 supposed HEATH's after him,  Isaac 17 and Hannah 14. Before Samuel, Issac & Hannah, is listed the family of farmer William HEATH and wife & 2 small children.

HO107- Piece2008-Folio564-Pg3 in Heaton Staffs.
Head: William HEATH  55, b Cheddleton
Wife: Mary HEATH 55, b b Cheddleton
Dau: Hannah  HEATH  2, b Heaton,
Son: William HEATH  9 months, Heaton.
Ser: Samuel HEATH 19, Farm Lab,
Ser: William HEATH 17, Farm Lab 
Ser: Hannah HEATH 14, House Ser

All listed as HEATH (dittoed after William snr).
If Mary is 55, she surely cannot be the birth mother of the 2 little children.
The 2 littlies are listed after the elders, and all before the 3 teenage servants.
The abbreviated word "Ser" is quite clearly different from "son", and Hannah a female is listed as "Ser" in her relationship, and also in her occupation.

I take it you do not have Samuel's marriage, which should give his father's name...you say he is one of 5 known sibs - who are the other 4?

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Re: Heath Family Mystery
« Reply #2 on: Monday 27 November 06 21:42 GMT (UK) »
1861 census RG9 1951 folio 9
Cats Wall Cheddleton  Staffordshire   
Samuel Heath  29  Cheddleton, Staffordshire, Head Married Farmer
Sarah Heath  29  Leek, Staffordshire,  Wife Married 
Mary Heath 6  Cheddleton, Staffordshire, Daughter 
Sarah A Heath  5  Cheddleton, Staffordshire,  Daughter
Samuel Heath 9mths Cheddleton, Staffordshire, Son 
Mary Heath  76  Kingsley, Staffordshire, Mother Widow Formerly farmer's wife

The family were in Wales in 1871 (Samuel and Sarah just gave Staffordshire as their birthplace) and back in Staffordshire in 1881 where Sarah gave her birthplace as Merebrook.

1841 census HO107 1003/12 folio 5 page 2
Brookhouse Cheddleton  Staffordshire
George Heath 48  Staffordshire farmer
Mary Heath 50  Staffordshire 
William Heath 20  Staffordshire Male Servant
Elijah Heath 11  Staffordshire
Samuel Heath 9  Staffordshire
Isaac Heath 6  Staffordshire

Mary was a widow on the 1851 census in Cheadle in the household of her son George aged 30 a publican and farmer born Cheddleton.

Not sure what the issue is, if you have been through all the censuses, since they seem quite conclusive about the age of Samuel's mother and her birthplace? Did Samuel not have an older brother called George born circa 1821 in Cheddleton?

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Re: Heath Family Mystery
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 03 December 06 15:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Buried in Cheddleton Churchyard

Thomas HEATH, of Boothhill, Cheadle,
9 May 1876, 61
Thomas HEATH, of Cheadle, 1 March 1884, 64


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Re: Heath Family Mystery
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 04 February 15 20:55 GMT (UK) »
Hello
I am also researching Heath but from Horton about 5 miles from Cheddleton Staffordshire.
But I have an earlier Heath family living at Catswall Cheddleton .
James Heath died before 10 September 1619 Catswall Cheddleton Tompkin seems to be the husband of Katherine Heath who left a will seems to have died before 16 September 1619 Catswall Cheddleton.
It seems the children are
John Heath
Job Heath
James Heath
Jacob Heath
Anne  Heath married to John Buckley or Boulklee
Ales Heath married Anthoney Hinkley
also Katherine Heath daughter in law
Katherine Cooke grandchild
John Cooke grandchild children of of Edward Cooke  son in law
John Heath  grandchild
witnesses to Katherine's will Andrew Heath, Jacob Heath and James Sutton

Denise

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Re: Heath Family Mystery
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 04 March 15 12:50 GMT (UK) »
Hello
I am also researching Heath but from Horton about 5 miles from Cheddleton Staffordshire.
But I have an earlier Heath family living at Catswall Cheddleton .
James Heath died before 10 September 1619 Catswall Cheddleton Tompkin seems to be the husband of Katherine Heath who left a will seems to have died before 16 September 1619 Catswall Cheddleton.
It seems the children are
John Heath
Job Heath
James Heath
Jacob Heath
Anne  Heath married to John Buckley or Boulklee
Ales Heath married Anthoney Hinkley
also Katherine Heath daughter in law
Katherine Cooke grandchild
John Cooke grandchild children of of Edward Cooke  son in law
John Heath  grandchild
witnesses to Katherine's will Andrew Heath, Jacob Heath and James Sutton

Denise

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Re: Heath Family Mystery
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 08 March 15 14:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi
On Saturday 2nd May 2015 there will be a reunion of Heath descendants from Horton and Cheddleton Staffordshire  to beheld from 1 p.m. to 5 p.m.  at
Endon village Hall,
Station Road
Endon
between Leek and Stoke-on-Trent
Denise