sims

[sooze]

hi
im trying to trace any sims from merthyr vale mid glam
who may be related to louisa mary sims born merthyr vale 1920.
cant find her on any of the census records

thanks
sooze

[Welsh Jen]

You mention 1920 and then not being able to find any census entries for the lady in question.

Census's are released every 100 years, so you will not find your ancestor yet as the census for 1921 wont be released until 2021. If you wish for me to look up the surname in the census years 1841/51/61 & 81. I will assist with your query.

[sooze]

thanks jen
that would be a great help

[Welsh Jen]

In 1861 the surname Sims gives 92 matches to the name (I didn't think the name would have been that popular then!)

Then there is this entry in 1851 when using the keyword (Merthyr):

2460 1851 CENSUS OF ABERDARE VILLAGE (PART). REF.H.O.107/2460, E.D.2L.                                                               
Piece: 2460      Folio: 378     Schedule: 137
Address: HIGH STREET           

SIMS WILLIAM               HD M  33   CHINA & GLASS DEALER     
                                      GLA MERTHYR                      (c1818)
SIMS SARAH                 WI M  37   -                         
                                      -   -                            (c1814)
SIMS SARAH JANE            DA -   7   -                         
                                      GLA MERTHYR                      (c1844)
SIMS ALFRED EDWARD         SO -   ?   -                         
                                      GLA MERTHYR                      (c1851)
SIMS JENNETT               MO W  67   NURSE                     
                                      BRE MERTHYR CYNOG                (c1784)

There are also another 131 entries for people living in Glamorgan in 1851.

& in 1841 there are 91 matches to the surname:

Viewed this one from the Merthyr region:

Glamorgan Family History Society 1841 Census CD
District Name: Merthyr Tydfil      Enumeration District:  6 Heolwermod Hamlet     
Piece: 1415/08      Folio: 051     Schedule: 048
Address: POST OFFICE STREET     
M 29 051 048  POST OFFICE STREET     SIMS EVAN                  60   (c1781)
                                     BLOCKLAYER                      YES
M 29                                 SIMS JANE                  50   (c1791)
                                     -                               YES
M 29                                 SIMS DAVID                 25   (c1816)
                                     MINER                           YES
M 29                                 SIMS WILLIAM               20   (c1821)
                                     TEA DEALER                      YES
M 29                                 SIMS EVAN                  20   (c1821)
                                     IRONMONGER                      YES
M 29                                 SIMS CATHERINE             14   (c1827)
                                     -                               YES

Glamorgan Family History Society 1841 Census CD
District Name: Merthyr Tydfil      Enumeration District:  2 Brithdir Hamlet       
Piece: 1414/07      Folio: 018     Schedule: 022A
Address: NURSERY ROW           
M 02 018 022A NURSERY ROW            SIMS ANN                   35   (c1806)
                                     FEMALE LABOURER                 YES
M 02                                 SIMS CATHERINE              5   (c1836)
                                     -                               YES
M 02                                 SIMS JOHN                   3   (c1838)
                                     -                               YES
M 02                                 SIMS SARAH                   6M (c1841)
                                     -                               YES

Not sure if going through all these returns will help.....I have to be honest I didn't think the surname was that known here in Wales! 

[sooze]

thank jen
i will have a word with some  of the older members of the family to see if they recognise any of the names

thanks for giving me somewhere to start from

much appretiated

sooze 

[Welsh Jen]

Will the 1881 census help you more?
SIMMIS, James   Lodg   <1829>   Birth:   Here   
   Census:   Glam   Merthyr Tydfil
SIMS, John   Lodg   <1830>   Birth:   Monm   Skenford
   Census:   Glam   Merthyr Tydfil
SIMS, Wm.   Head   <1831>   Birth:   Glam   Llansamlet
   Census:   Glam   Merthyr Tydfil
SIMS, Catherine   Wife   <1835>   Birth:   Glam   Abernant Merthyr Tydfil
   Census:   Glam   Merthyr Tydfil
SIMS, Sarah Ann   DauL   <1859>   Birth:   Glam   Merthyr Tydfil
   Census:   Glam   Merthyr Tydfil
SIMS, David   Son   <1860>   Birth:   Glam   Merthyr Tydfil
   Census:   Glam   Merthyr Tydfil
SIMS, Simon   SonL   <1860>   Birth:      Tredegar
   Census:   Glam   Merthyr Tydfil
SIMMS, Martha   Serv   <1862>   Birth:   Som   Evercreech
   Census:   Glam   Merthyr Tydfil
SIMS, Cath.   Dau   <1863>   Birth:   Glam   Merthyr Tydfil
   Census:   Glam   Merthyr Tydfil
SIMS, Mary   Dau   <1863>   Birth:   Glam   Eglwisilan
   Census:   Glam   Merthyr Tydfil
SIMS, Margt.   Dau   <1865>   Birth:   Glam   Merthyr Tydfil
   Census:   Glam   Merthyr Tydfil
SIMS, Eliz.   Dau   <1868>   Birth:   Glam   Merthyr Tydfil
   Census:   Glam   Merthyr Tydfil
SIMS, William   Son   <1870>   Birth:   Glam   Merthyr Tydfil
   Census:   Glam   Merthyr Tydfil
SIMS, John   Son   <1872>   Birth:   Glam   Merthyr Tydfil
   Census:   Glam   Merthyr Tydfil
SIMS, Gwen   Dau   <1875>   Birth:   Glam   Merthyr Tydfil
   Census:   Glam   Merthyr Tydfil
SIMS, Mary Ann   GDau   <1879>   Birth:      
   Census:   Glam   Merthyr Tydfil

[sooze]

yes i think it would
if you dont mind looking

[Welsh Jen]

Looked for her name just incase she was named after someone in the family that search in 1881 yielded these 2 matches: If not then the above is the index for all named Sim living in Merthyr in 1881:

   Dwelling:   8 Bell Row
   Census Place:   Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales
   Source:   FHL Film 1342278     PRO Ref RG11    Piece 5310    Folio 60    Page 15
   Marr   Age   Sex   Birthplace
Wm. SIMS   M   50    M   Llansamlet, Glamorgan, Wales
   Rel:   Head
   Occ:   Colly Pumpg Eng Tender
Catherine SIMS   M   46    F   Abernant Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales
   Rel:   Wife
Mary A. WILLIAMS   M   29    F   Abernant Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales
   Rel:   Daur
David SIMS   M   21    M   Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Loco Fireman
Cath. SIMS   U   18    F   Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales
   Rel:   Daur
   Occ:   Labourer Top Of Colliery
Margt. SIMS   U   16    F   Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales
   Rel:   Daur
   Occ:   Labourer Brick Yard
Eliz. SIMS   U   13    F   Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales
   Rel:   Daur
   Occ:   Scholar
William SIMS       11    M   Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Scholar
John SIMS       9    M   Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Scholar
Gwen SIMS       6    F   Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales
   Rel:   Daur
   Occ:   Scholar
Thos. WILLIAMS       10    M   Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales
   Rel:   Grandson
   Occ:   Scholar
Wm. WILLIAMS       3    M   Boston, America
   Rel:   Grandson
Sarah Ann SIMS   M   22    F   Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales
   Rel:   Daur In Law
Mary Ann SIMS       2    F   
   Rel:   Grand Daur
   Dwelling:   Woodland House
   Census Place:   Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales
   Source:   FHL Film 1342278     PRO Ref RG11    Piece 5310    Folio 127    Page 6
   Marr   Age   Sex   Birthplace
Rachel EVANS   M   47    F   Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales
   Rel:   Head
   Occ:   Wife Of William Evans (In America)
Williams EVANS   U   20    M   Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Colliery Brakesman
Tabitha EVANS       12    F   Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorgan, Wales
   Rel:   Daur
   Occ:   Scholar
William DAVIES   U   23    M   Llantrisant, Glamorgan, Wales
   Rel:   Lodger
   Occ:   Assistant Road Surveyor
Thomas WALTERS   M   32    M   Mountain Ash, Glamorgan, Wales
   Rel:   Lodger
   Occ:   Quarryman
Simon SIMS   M   21    M   Tredegar
   Rel:   Son In Law
   Occ:   Clerk Of Building Works
Mary SIMS   M   18    F   Eglwisilan, Glamorgan, Wales
   Rel:   Daur

[sooze]

thanks again jen

youve been really helpfull
i will let you know how i get on

and yes sims is a very popular name around merthyr
at one time there were at least 5 families all close relations living in belle view merthyr vale they were my husbands family on his mothers side . there are two families of sims still living there today!!!and loads more spread futher around mid glam.
i think some family interviewing needs to be undertaken!!!

thanks

sooze