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Frustrated Sutherland Seeks Sutherlands
« on: Tuesday 28 November 06 12:12 GMT (UK) »
Me again. ;D

I'm getting really frustrated looking for a couple of relations of mine. Angus Sutherland born c.1806 and Janet Sutherland (née Sutherland) born c.1816, both in Latheron. They were married 14th April 1843 in Latheron. They had one son as far as I'm aware, William born c.1845, Latheron. In the 1851 census, Angus, Janet and William reside in 4 Badbea, Berriedale, Latheron. If anyone could look up any other censuses to find particularly Angus and Janet, or if there's any other advice you lot could give me, I'd be most appreciative. :)

Ta
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Caithness: Sutherland and Gunn (Latheron), Mowat (Olrig, Canisbay)
Fife: Fleming, Harley, Small, Laing, Malcolm
Angus/Forfarshire: Small, Laing (Dundee)
Perthshire: Runciman, Whittet, Paul, Small
Midlothian: Dudgeon, Sanderson (Tranent)

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Warwickshire: Bromley, Vickers, Hydon

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Re: Frustrated Sutherland Seeks Sutherlands
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 28 November 06 14:10 GMT (UK) »
Hello

If you search on www.ScotlandsPeople.gov.uk in the 1861 census using these terms:

You searched for: Surname: "sutherland"; Use Soundex: Off; Forename: "angus*"; Sex: "Male"; Age From: 50; Age To: 60; Year: 1861; County: "CAITHNESS"; District: "LATHERON";

you'll find there are only 2 results.....and the first one looks like your family based on what you've stated.  If you know Angus's occupation from 1851 it would make it more definite.....but this family is living at Badbea so it's is probably them.  Not hard to find at all  ;D

Best wishes
Jean

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Re: Frustrated Sutherland Seeks Sutherlands
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 29 November 06 20:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ostler

I remember from your previous post trying to track down Angus, Janet and William that it looked like William was their only son on the 1851 Census. From the index, this looks like the family highlighted by Jean. You will have to look at the original image to determine the relationships in the household:

Angus, 55, fisherman, b. Dunbeath
Janet Sutherland, 48, b. Berriedale
Janet Sutherland, 8, b. Berriedale
Margaret Sutherland, 15, Domestic Servant, b. Berriedale
William Sutherland, 15, b. Berriedale
Charlotte Gunn, 76, pauper, b. Berriedale

Address: Badbea, Latheron

Regards.

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Re: Frustrated Sutherland Seeks Sutherlands
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 29 November 06 21:47 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, I'll have to get onto ScotlandsPeople and try it. :) It says Angus was born in Dunbeath... is that in the parish of Latheron? I'll see if I can look up his birth/baptizm on the site while I'm at it.
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Angus/Forfarshire: Small, Laing (Dundee)
Perthshire: Runciman, Whittet, Paul, Small
Midlothian: Dudgeon, Sanderson (Tranent)

England
Gloucestershire: Edkins, Trowton/Troughton
Warwickshire: Bromley, Vickers, Hydon

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Re: Frustrated Sutherland Seeks Sutherlands
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 29 November 06 22:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ostler

Dunbeath is in the parish of Latheron. Have a look at this link for a simple map:

www.georgesons.co.uk/caith.html#map

Regards.

Monica
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Re: Frustrated Sutherland Seeks Sutherlands
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 29 November 06 23:38 GMT (UK) »
Just looked up the baptizms, and there are two likely ones that could be my Angus. One is 21/7/1805 in Kildonan to William and Margaret Sutherland. Where's Kildonan?

The other is 29/1/1807 to John and Janet Sutherland in Clyne. Again I don't know where that is. I know it's up in the same area as Latheron, but one of you said Angus was born in Dunbeath. Which is closer to Dunbeath? :P
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Scotland
Caithness: Sutherland and Gunn (Latheron), Mowat (Olrig, Canisbay)
Fife: Fleming, Harley, Small, Laing, Malcolm
Angus/Forfarshire: Small, Laing (Dundee)
Perthshire: Runciman, Whittet, Paul, Small
Midlothian: Dudgeon, Sanderson (Tranent)

England
Gloucestershire: Edkins, Trowton/Troughton
Warwickshire: Bromley, Vickers, Hydon

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Re: Frustrated Sutherland Seeks Sutherlands
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 29 November 06 23:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ostler

Clyne and Kildonan are both in Sutherland, have a look at this Parish link:

www.scotlandsfamily.com/parish-map-caithness.htm

I had a look at IGI and think that Angus's birth entry doesn't appear to be there. Lots of reasons for this, OPRs haven't survived, birth not registered etc.

Have you found Angus's death cert.? This would confirm parents' names.

Regards.

Monica
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Re: Frustrated Sutherland Seeks Sutherlands
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 30 November 06 00:01 GMT (UK) »
Angus is still alive in 1881. Showing as married but no one else in the household other than him on the night. Still showing as born in Dunbeath, age, 76, Crofter (Formerly Wool Weaver), and still at Badbea.

Monica
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Re: Frustrated Sutherland Seeks Sutherlands
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 30 November 06 00:07 GMT (UK) »
Just realised occupation on the 1881 Census doesn't quite fit his 1861 entry of fisherman. He either changed direction or had died before the 1881 Census and there's a second Angus b. in Dunbeath around the same time  ???
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