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Why are they not in the GRO?
« on: Monday 11 December 06 20:47 GMT (UK) »
I have been searching for some folks who appeared in the 1881 census, from which I have their places of birth and ages. However even armed with this information I still can't seem to be able to locate their records of birth in the GRO.

The 1881 census inmates of the Wallingford Union Workhouse,
Caroline Dixey (I have her details).

Emma Dixey age 9yrs (c1871-1872) born Maidenhead Berks.
Mary A Dixey age 6yrs (c1874-1875) born    "          "    "   "
Geo Dixey age 1yr (c1879-1880) born Wallingford (Union)
Harriet Dixey age 5yrs (c1875-1876) born Greenford Middlesex.
Kezia Dixey age 43yrs (c1837-1838) born Moulsford Berks.

I tried some lateral thinking and found George Dixon born Q1 1880 Wallingford 2c/338.

I don't know who Kezia Dixey is but guess that she is the mother of the four children, and have discovered a Kezia Winfield married Q4 1856 Wallingford 2c/272. to either Thos Dawson, Thos Stroudley, or Ezekiel Martin.

I have also found the death record of an Ezekiel Martin age 34yrs Q2 1868 Faringdon 2c/154.

Also the birth of Emma Jane Martin Q3 1869 in Maidstone 2a/559.
This would mean that she couldn't have been the daughter of Ezekiel but could still have his name.

Does any of this make any sense or am I making too many assumptions?

Also why on earth can’t I find them in the GRO?

Can anyone make any suggestions please?
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Re: Why are they not in the GRO?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 11 December 06 21:00 GMT (UK) »
Have you checked all spellings?  Dicksey? etc   You are looking at the full records not just FreeBMd which is not full coverage?    Sorry if I am teaching my grandmother to suck eggs but it is as well to check!   Have you looked for them on other census?
I am not sure what Kezia Winfield has to do with the case at all!
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Re: Why are they not in the GRO?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 11 December 06 21:02 GMT (UK) »
Following on from George Dixon.. ..


Emma Jane Dixon Q2 1872 Cookham, Berks

Mary Ann Dixon Q3 1874 Cookham

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Re: Why are they not in the GRO?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 December 06 08:28 GMT (UK) »
1891 census:
RG12/986; Folio 136; Page 4
The Alley, Crowmarsh Gifford, Oxfordshire

Keziah Dixey - Head - Single - 48 - Charwoman - Moulsford, Berks
George Dixey - Son - 11 - Scholar - Wallingford, Berks
Martha Dixey - Dau - 7 - Scholar - Scarborough, Yorks

in 1901, Keziah Dixey (55, Widow) is nurse to an old lady in Wallingford.

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ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: Why are they not in the GRO?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 12 December 06 11:26 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou all for your help.

Andrea, I assumed that Kezia had a maiden name and that Dixey was her married name so that is why Kezia Winfield came to my attention especially as she married Ezekiel Martin, and I have found a GRO for the birth of an Emma Jane Martin for about the correct year to form a possible tie with Emma Dixey both being born in Maidenhead as they were. As I say I may be making too many assumptions in this case but I figured it might be an avenue worth exploring.
I have been looking in the full GRO and as you suggest I will have to widen my search for other spellings eg Dicksey e.t.c.

SandraC, that's very helpful as Cookham seems to be in close proximity to Maidenhead.

Rambler, much appreciate that information, now I have to figure out the Scarborough connection.

Once again thankyou all for your help and advice.

Regards Barry. :)

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Re: Why are they not in the GRO?
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 12 December 06 12:13 GMT (UK) »
In 1881 there are 195 women called Kezia born in Berkshire.   As you say, Kezia Dixey is in the workhouse in Wallingford poor soul.
Kezia Dixey W 43 washerwoman b Moulsford - age is not quite in line with the other census but that is not surprising
Emma 9 b Maidenhead
Harriet 5 b Msex Greenford
George 1 b Wallingford Union.

Perhaps her husband died before George was born so she had to enter the workhouse then.   On the other hand perhaps there never was a husband?    Martha certainly is after his probable death.
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Re: Why are they not in the GRO?
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 12 December 06 14:51 GMT (UK) »
Yes I knew that it was a longshot but putting Kezia Martin, Emma Jane Martin b Maidenhead, and Emma Jane Dixon (Dixey) b Maidenhead together I thought that there could be a link.

You're right of course all that is too fanciful to prove a link. Still I'll keep looking, they will be found!

Regards Barry. :)

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Re: Why are they not in the GRO?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 12 December 06 15:01 GMT (UK) »
I think that one was a bit fanciful but I cannot find a Kezia Dixey in earlier census and if she was not around as K Dixey then she must have married!   We hope...
Andrea

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Re: Why are they not in the GRO?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 27 July 10 18:16 BST (UK) »
Can I ask a question of Baz54?

Did you find anything further paticularly about Emma Dixey aged 9 in the Union Worhouse in Wallingford?
The reason I ask is she is my grandmother