what shall i do now

[SandraC]

Is he the little chap living with his Grandparents in 1891 in Bottesford?

If so, the registration may be in Lincolnshire - Grantham

There is a John Walter Cooper registered Q3 1885 at Grantham 

SandraC

[stanmapstone]

Looking through the GRO Indexes for 1885 and 1886 the one they sent you is the only one that fits for somebody born in Frankton, which was registered in Rugby.
Stan

[carol8353]

Can you tell us where you got Frankton from- searching the 1901 indexes by just putting Frankton in- with no name at all only gives you one person a lady called Alice 

Maybe we should start at the beginning Zowster- we'll have him done and dusted by bedtime 

I did see from one of your other posts that John W Cooper married Alice Pritchard in 1911 in Tamworth Staffs.

All the best

Carol

For more info see also http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,201155.msg1012888.html#msg1012888

[zowster]

i got the information that my great grandfather john william cooper was born in frankton from the 1891 census he is living in no mans heath warwickshire aged 6 with his grandparents john and susan cooper

[carol8353]

Ahhhh right then,Sandra C was right.

1891 they are on RG12/2209 folio 88 page 15

Living in Main Road,Newton Regis,Tamworth, Staffs.

John Cooper head 59 Ag labourer b Polesworth Warks
Susan Cooper wife 58 b Appleby Leics
James Cooper unm son 31 cowman b Seckington Warks
John Cooper grandson 6 scholar b Frankton Leics.

Wonder who his mum was.....will try the 1881 next to see if that gives us any clues.

1881.........at Fradley Sale,Fradley,Staffs RG11/2777 folio 19 page 11

John COOPER   Head   49  b Polesworth, Warks Shepherd     
Susan COOPER wife    48 b Appleby, Leicester,     
James COOPER   Son unm    22   bSeckington, Warks Ag Lab     
William COOPER   Son unm   17  b Seckington, Warks Waggoner     
Clara COOPER   Dau           b 8   Moulton, Northampton  Scholar   

So now we see where the Shepherd side of the family comes in. 


Regards

Carol

[JDGen]

Posting 1871 in case it helps, RG10 3227/6 Page 8, Alexton, Leicestershire:

John COOPER, Head, Mar, 40, Shepherd born Warwickshire Polesworth
Susan COOPER, Wife, Mar, 39 born Leicestershire Appleby
John William COOPER, Son, 17, Ag Lab born Warwickshire Seckington
Sarah Ann COOPER, Dau, 11, Scholar born Warwickshire Seckington
James COOPER, Son, 12, Ag Lab born Warwickshire Seckington
William COOPER, Son, 8, Scholar born Warwickshire Seckington

Jean

[JDGen]

1861 here as well, I don't know if it helps but one of the children must be the father or mother so it might be possible to trace them forward, RG9 1969/55 Page 3, Seckington, Warwickshire:

John COOPER, Head, Mar, 29, Ag Lab born Warwickshire Polesworth
Susan COOPER, Wife, Mar, 28, born Leicestershire Appleby
John COOPER, Son, 7, Scholar born Leicester Appleby
James COOPER, Son, 2 born Warwickshire Seckington
Sarah COOPER, Dau, 1 born Warwickshire Seckington
John COOPER, Father Wid, 55, Ag Lab born Warwickshire Warton

Jean

[PaulineJ]

1861 here as well, I don't know if it helps but one of the children must be the father or mother so it might be possible to trace them forward, RG9 1969/55 Page 3, Seckington, Warwickshire:

John COOPER, Head, Mar, 29, Ag Lab born Warwickshire Polesworth
Susan COOPER, Wife, Mar, 28, born Leicestershire Appleby
John COOPER, Son, 7, Scholar born Leicester Appleby
James COOPER, Son, 2 born Warwickshire Seckington
Sarah COOPER, Dau, 1 born Warwickshire Seckington
John COOPER, Father Wid, 55, Ag Lab born Warwickshire Warton

Jean

He's already GOT the birth certificate... He can tell us about the parentage.

Pauline

[JDGen]

Hi Pauline and Zowster,

I thought that the whole post was about zowster having the right certificate.  As John William COOPER is with grandparent in 1891 I'm not sure we have parents for him yet.  Have I misunderstood? I thought that the earlier census records would help.

Jean