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PEACE - Sheffield - 1841, 1851, 1861
« on: Wednesday 24 January 07 01:17 GMT (UK) »
Hello all!

I would be grateful for a lookup in the any or all of the 1841, 1851 and 1861 Census for:

George PEACE born 1795 Sheffield

He is the son of Samuel (dec 1833) and Ann (dec 1835) and a sibling between John and Charles, and according to information I have found, he died 1862 in Sheffield. 

I believe this George is probably the father of my Charles PEACE b 1822,who on his marriage lines, stated his father was a George PEACE, file cutter,

I am also looking for my Charles PEACE in 1841 and 1851.
I do already have him on the 1861 and 1871 with his wife Ruth and children. In those Censii in Ecclesall Bierlow, Nether Hallam it indicates Charles was born around 1822 in Sheffield (one says in Crookes). He was a file cutter.  I don't yet have birth certificate baptism or mother's name for him.

Many thanks for any help!

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AMBLY
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Re: PEACE - Sheffield - 1841, 1851, 1861
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 24 January 07 09:56 GMT (UK) »
1861:
RG9/3469; Folio 13; Page 25 - Cooks Moor Gardens, Tree[..] Walk, Eccleshall Bierlow, Sheffield
Joseph Peace - Head - 33 - File Cutter
Mary Ann Peace - Wife - 24
Sarah Ann Peace - Dau - 6
James William Peace - Son - 4
Herbert Peace - Son - 2
Joseph Peace - Son - 5m
George Peace - Widower - 65 - File Cutter
Mary Ann Peace - Dau - Unm - 25
Sarah Peace - Dau - 5m    (bracketed with Mary Ann - presumably MA's daughter.)
(All born Sheffield.)

1851:
HO107/2337; Folio 746; Page 53 - Cookes Gardens, Eccleshall Bierlow, Sheffield
George Pearce - Head - 55 - File Cutter
Sarah Pearce - Wife - 55
Joseph Pearce - Son - 24 - File Cutter
William Pearce - Son - 20 - File Cutter
Emma Pearce - Dau - 12
(All born Sheffield.)

1841:
HO107/1333/3; Folio 21; Page 3 - Broom Cross, Sheffield
George Peace - 40 - File Cutter
Henry Pearce - 20 - File Cutter
Edward Pearce - 20 - File Cutter
Charles Pearce - 15 - File Cutter
Joseph Pearce - 13 - File Cutter
William Pearce - 10 - File Cutter
Sarah Pearce - 40
Elizabeth Pearce - 12
Mary Ann Pearce - 5
Emma Pearce - 2
(All born Yorkshire.)

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ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: PEACE - Sheffield - 1841, 1851, 1861
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 24 January 07 17:16 GMT (UK) »
Thanks very much Rambler, much appreciated! ;D

This looks like my 2 chaps. The names, ages and locations are spot on.  As well as this Census, I do have other info on my line which makes me pretty sure my Charles and his father George, are closely part of the PEACE family that were File & Steel Manufacturers in Sheffield with George probably being the brother who didn't seem to be involved in the business in the same way.

From the IGI, I tend to think George's wife is Sarah DARWIN. And if George is the son of Samuel & Ann,  it would appear their 3 sons  (John, George and Charles) all married women named Sarah.

Could I ask if there is any sign of my Charles in 1851 at all ?  He would have been around 28 then and probably in Sheffield - round Hallam / Eccleshall Bierlow. When he married in Sheffield  in 1852, he was stated as a Batchelor, resident of Hallam.

Thanks again !
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Re: PEACE - Sheffield - 1841, 1851, 1861
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 24 January 07 18:41 GMT (UK) »
I think this is Charles in 1851:

HO107/2338; Folio 422; Page 51 - 9 St George Terrace, Sheffield
Charles Peace - Head - 27 - ?? & Filemaker - Sheffield
Susan Nicholes - Servant - 32 - Upper Hallam(?)

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ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: PEACE - Sheffield - 1841, 1851, 1861
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 24 January 07 19:28 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again Rambler,
That does look like it's probably him - a servant, huh? hmmm.  :-X

Cheers
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Re: PEACE - Sheffield - 1841, 1851, 1861
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 25 January 07 19:55 GMT (UK) »
One or two wrinkles in the census entries, from a local knowledge point of view:

1861
The address is Crookes Moor Gardens and the second part is 'Tree Root Walk' This still exists off Whitham Road, next to the Weston Park Hospital.
George has 'widower' under relation to head and 'Mar' under status!

1851
Again, Crookes Gardens
There is a John PEACE 57 file manufacturer, and family on the previous page, also in Crookes Gardens

1841
The surname is PEACE throughout.
There is another person, possibly a servant though no occupation is listed:

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Hannah EAGLE 45 (born in county)

There is another word after 'Broom Cross' which is difficult to make out. It might be 'Walk'?
This household is preceded by one in Western Bank, and followed by one in 'Tree Root Walk', so they didn't move far if at all.

Hugh

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Re: PEACE - Sheffield - 1841, 1851, 1861
« Reply #6 on: Friday 26 January 07 22:18 GMT (UK) »
Was he by any chance related to the infamous Charlie PEACE ?

  see: www.historybytheyard.co.uk/charlie_peace.htm

   Regards - Dave
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Re: PEACE - Sheffield - 1841, 1851, 1861
« Reply #7 on: Friday 26 January 07 23:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi Hugh
Thanks for the extra clarifications on the Census. And for the local knowledge! Those Census  can be hard to read sometimes!
My Charles stated in the 1871 Census (living at 98 Walkley Bank (or Bark) Road) and he was born in "Crookes".  His wife Ruth PEARSON was born there aswell.

Correspondence years ago and in relation to Ralph PEACE's book, suggested Charles was of the "Pea Croft PEACE" family - and indeed that address does figure on one of the certificates of my lot. There are so many in the PEACE clan with the same name, it's a heck of a job sorting thru them   ::)  but so far it looks as if his father George is the one I think he is - and it was another branch of the family who were the more prominent manufacturers in Sheffield and in the US.

If I could trouble you further, would you be able to give me the details of the John PEACE you mention in 1851, this could be his brother?

Many thanks!
AMBLY
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Re: PEACE - Sheffield - 1841, 1851, 1861
« Reply #8 on: Friday 26 January 07 23:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Dave

When I first started looing at the PEACE side, I came across Charlie PEACE the villian! And was quite excited as his age was near to my Charles' - but as it panned out, not the same man  ;D Facinating story his is, though, and I hope I can one day claim him!

I haven't managed to find a link of the infamous Charlie into my PEACE tree - I have seen web info that says he was born 1832 and his father John was a Shoemaker - whereas most of 'my' PEACE were in the steel, filecutter line - I think he (John) may have been from Derbyshire. But there were Sheffield PEACE's who did go to Derbyshire.....

Do you know anything of the Sheffield PEACE clan?

Cheers  :)
AMBLY
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