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birth record Macnay (Wallsend)
« on: Wednesday 07 February 07 08:34 GMT (UK) »
my ancestor was born in Wallsend, NBL in 1785. His name was Thomas Macnay> I believe he also married there. His wifes name was Mace (dont know whether this was her 1st
or surname. I know of only one son born 1827 also wallsend, named Matthew Macnay. Thomas and Matthew were both coal miners. This is all I know about them & so would appreciate any information.

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Re: birth record Macnay (Wallsend)
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 07 February 07 08:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Koru

Welcome to Rootschat!

This seems to be the family in 1851 - I think the Mace name might be a misunderstanding of the wife's name!

HO107/2392/441/42

Thomas MACNAY H M 65 - coal miner - Northd Wallsend
Stacey W M 65 - do  modified see below
Mathew son U 21? - coal miner - do
Ralph son 13 - do - Durham Hetton
Margaret DAY serv 10 - do

Address: Haswell, Durham

Have you found them in 1841?

kind regards, Arranroots  ;)

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: birth record Macnay (Wallsend)
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 07 February 07 08:59 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat Koru  8)  8)

I think it's Alace  ;)

Will post 1841 details in a mo ...  :D (Unless you are already typing it, Arranroots?)
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Re: birth record Macnay (Wallsend)
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 07 February 07 08:59 GMT (UK) »
A few more children for you in 1841 and the wife's name is quite clear here (assuming it is the same one!)

HO107/296/12/32/19

Thomas MCNAY 50 - coalminer - N
Alice 50 N
Joseph 15 - do -N
Elizabeth 14 N
Matthew 12 - do - N
Eleanor 9 N
Alice BARTRAM 3 Y
Ralph MCNAY 3 Y

Address: ?Wreckenton, Gateshead, Durham

A  ;)

(sorry Tati - already done them!)  :-[
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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: birth record Macnay (Wallsend)
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 07 February 07 09:07 GMT (UK) »


I think it's Alace  ;)


Just looked back at 1851 and agree with you Tati - definitely written Alace

;)

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: birth record Macnay (Wallsend)
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 07 February 07 17:41 GMT (UK) »
Baptism Wallsend (C of E):

Elizabeth Macnay 30 Oct 1831 d/o Thomas and Alice

Burial Wallsend

William McNay, age 6, Wallsend, 13 Aug 1837

Baptism: Carville Wesleyan Wallsend
Mary Mc Nay born 11 Sept 1819 baptised 13 Sept 1819 d/o Thomas McNay and Alice

I couldn't find a marriage in Northumberland or Co. Durham

Janis
Co. Durham:  Hall, Snowdon, Makepeace, Barnfather, Barrass, Gray/Grey, Wilson, Carr, Cole, Richardson, Greener, Lamb
Northumberland:  Grey/Gray, Richardson, Barnfather, Heron, Redpath
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Re: birth record Macnay (Wallsend)
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 08 February 07 08:30 GMT (UK) »

thanks to all for the speedy reply to my query. I will study it tonight . I had reached a stage when I did not think I could continue with my family tree but I am now inspired to keep going. With appreciation..Koru

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Re: birth record Macnay (Wallsend)
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 08 February 07 12:56 GMT (UK) »
 Just to add a wee bit, brought on by spotting Janis's mention of Wesleyan church.

Up to July 1837 the only LEGAL way to marry in England, was in a church of the "established church of the land"
( =  a "Parish" Church, = The Church of England)

Quakers and Jewish people were exempted from this legislation.

So the choice for Wesleyans, Presbyterians, Catholics etc, was to...

* marry in the "wrong" church,
** just not marry,
*** marry beyond te reach of English law.. e.g Scotland

Michael Dixon
(RC who crossed from Northumberland to Scotland to marry... but not for legal reasons..and after 1837 !  LOL )
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GALLAGHER ( + variations).
Areas. Co Sligo, Co Leitrim, Co Mayo. IRELAND.
Ontario, CANADA
Lowell, Ma, USA
Counties of Northumberland & Durham, ENGLAND
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MALEY/MELIA/MALLEY  - with or without " O "
Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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DIXON
Cumberland.. Brampton, Carlisle, ENGLAND

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Re: birth record Macnay (Wallsend)
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 10 July 14 19:45 BST (UK) »
Hi ive been researching my family tree on and off for about 10 years and today after going from site to site ended up here - your post is from 2007 so no doubt you have found out more about your links to Thomas Macnay but just to let you know I am related...Thomas is my gggg grandad.