What can you do when you don't know?

[Betty Boo]

What can you do when you don't know where in County Monaghan someone was born.  All I do have is their name, year of birth and their fathers name from a marriage certificate.

Elizabeth

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[Nutty1966]

Snap, I have exactly the same and have never ever got any further back 
this branch of my family is driving me mad


Jane

PS I don't suppose yours are called RICE, what would be the chance of that

[Betty Boo]

Hi Jane,

No mine are called Thomas and Father Owen Collins, although I do have RICE on my other side of the family, I haven't even got that far back yet but maybe they were from Ireland too.

Elizabeth

[gail34]

What years are you looking I have family from Clones
 Co Monaghan

[Nutty1966]

Hi

My person I am searching for is PATRICK RICE 1847 born Monaghan, father is Peter Rice, his occupation was Corn Merchant on Patrick's wedding cert, and that is all I know, apart from later census, when he is living with wife and family in England 

Anything you could find would be a great help!!

With thanks

Jane

[gail34]

Hi

Irish records for birth start 1864 marriage a bit earlier
Did he marry in Monaghan
I get my info at the Mormans Church next thime Iam there I will go through Rice Monaghan

[aghadowey]

Civil registration of births (and deaths) in Ireland started 1864. Registration of Protestant marriages began 1845 and Catholic marriages in 1864. For earlier records of births and marriages you will need to find church records (if they still exist).

[Betty Boo]

Hi aghadowey,

Sorry is this in reply to my Thomas Collins born 1841  County Monaghan?


If it is for Thomas Collins then his birth 1841 won't be there.

Sorry should have added he was catholic.  I don't know which area in County Monaghan he came from.  Every census just says Ireland, nothing else, I did find out later when his son was killed in WW1 that Thomas came from County  Monaghan as his son received a medal which was presented to his mother in County Durham.
 
Elizabeth

[aghadowey]

Yes Elizabeth. You will not get a birth certificate for Thomas (born 1841) and you will probbly have to narrow down his birthplace to at least a parish or area in County Monaghan before you will know whether or not church records exist for the time of his birth/christening.