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POLLARD & CARMICHAEL families in South Australia
« on: Monday 12 February 07 06:43 GMT (UK) »
William Henry Pollard (b 30/6/1859 in Wheal Ellen, District of Mt.B, South Australia) married Mary Ann Carmichael (b 21/5/1857 in North Kapunda, South Australia) about 1877.
Does anyone have information on the ancestors of this family or the best place to look for information
England; Ford, Ling (Suffolk & Norfolk) Barker, Dove, Elmer, Robins, Thurlow, Yaxley (Norfolk) Blower, Titley,  (Shropshire & Essex), Pollard (Cornwall), Speight (Yorkshire), Nevell (Oxfordshire)
Scotland; Callander (Falkirk), Finlayson,  Dick (Lanarkshire), Carmichael
Ireland; Nowlan, Carmichael
Also all above names in Tasmania, Australia
Alderson, Blair, Burston, Crawford, Windsor (Tasmania, Aust)

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Re: Pollard & Carmichael families in South Australia
« Reply #1 on: Monday 12 February 07 06:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi Viking57,

Welcome to RootsChat. Here is the marriage to start with

POLLARD William Henry 30 Single father William Pollard = CARMICHAEL Mary Anna 20 Single Father William Richard Carmichael  7 Feb 1877 Lutheran Parsonage Rosenthal Dist Bar 110/451

Age does not match William Henry POLLARD born 30 Jun 1859  ???
Mary Anne does match the one you have provided
unfortunately no fathers listed at the marriage of her parents

CARMICHAEL William Richard 35 Widow father unrecorded = HOLLAND Mary Ann Howard 23 Single father not recorded 28 May 1856 Res of William Richard Carmichael Kooringa Dist Tmu Symbol V 26/364

Cheers Kris  :D


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Re: Pollard & Carmichael families in South Australia
« Reply #2 on: Monday 12 February 07 07:04 GMT (UK) »
State wide cemetery search shows
Mrs Mary Ann Pollard buried at Bute
aged 75 at death in 1932

There are a few Pollards buried  in more recent times at Mt Barker including a 'Bill' who may be related.

http://www.pirie.sa.gov.au/site/page.cfm?u=130

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Re: Pollard & Carmichael families in South Australia
« Reply #3 on: Monday 12 February 07 07:15 GMT (UK) »
I also see what appears to be a siblings marriage here

CARMICHAEL William Richard Howard 32 Single father William R Carmichael =  POLLARD Julia 29 Father William Pollard 3 May 1893  Res of William Pollard Moonta Dist Dal 175/529

POLLARD Julia 28 May 1863 Angaston Dist Ang 28 482 Parents William Pollard and Caroline George

I can see 4 other girls born to this couple in SA but alas no William Henry and no marriage of William and Caroline in SA so looks like he probably arrived with them

Cheers Kris  :D
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Re: Pollard & Carmichael families in South Australia
« Reply #4 on: Monday 12 February 07 07:19 GMT (UK) »
Aha yes they arrived 1847 aboard the Rajah

http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/1847Rajah.htm

This site suggests the child was William Henry

http://www.shipping.familyhistorysa.info/passengerlists.html

Kris  :D
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Re: Pollard & Carmichael families in South Australia
« Reply #5 on: Monday 12 February 07 11:11 GMT (UK) »
Thank Kris,
I have only just started again after a long break so I will have to check on where I got the birthdate for William Pollard from.
This gives me some more places to look

Garry
England; Ford, Ling (Suffolk & Norfolk) Barker, Dove, Elmer, Robins, Thurlow, Yaxley (Norfolk) Blower, Titley,  (Shropshire & Essex), Pollard (Cornwall), Speight (Yorkshire), Nevell (Oxfordshire)
Scotland; Callander (Falkirk), Finlayson,  Dick (Lanarkshire), Carmichael
Ireland; Nowlan, Carmichael
Also all above names in Tasmania, Australia
Alderson, Blair, Burston, Crawford, Windsor (Tasmania, Aust)

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Re: Pollard & Carmichael families in South Australia
« Reply #6 on: Monday 12 February 07 12:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi Garry,

No problem....Here are the other births to William POLLARD and Caroline GEORGE

POLLARD Caroline 28 sep 1852 Adelaide dist Ade 4 73 Caroline died  aged 6 Months 21 Mar 1853 Not Recorded Dist Ade 2 197

PULLARD Caroline 14 Dec 1854 Not Recorded Dist Ade 5 85 Caroline died (Pollard) aged 5 years on the 10 Feb 1860 Nr Angaston (Of Angaston) Dist Ang20 166 Father William Pollard

POLLARD Marianne 8 Jun 1857 Angaston Dist Ang 12 593
HOOD Robert 47 Single father Robert Hood = POLLARD Mary Ann 57 Single father William Pollard 23 Sep 1914 Methodist Manse Angaston Dist Ang 260/863

POLLARD Emily Jane 14 Nov 1859 Angaston Dist Ang 18 413

Cheers Kris  :D
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Re: Pollard & Carmichael families in South Australia
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 13 February 07 06:02 GMT (UK) »
From the BISA:-
CARMICHAEL William R:  died after 1874  arrived by 1840  occupation:  Doctor     resided Adelaide, Kapunda, Freeling
married: unknown  children: Wm R  1860,  sons

I checked the 1841 Census but only 1 Carmichael family mentioned Dugald & Margaret (under 35), Arch, Dugald & Hugh (under 7)  pg 2118,  Dist A

POLLARD William:  arrived by 1869, resided Angaston  rel: Meth   married: Caroline  children:  Mary, Emily & Julia by 1869

POLLARD  William Henry: arrived by 1877  resided Angaston
rel: Meth    married: Mary Ann   children: Nelson Hugh 1877,
Gertrude Victoria 1881-1886,  Emily Maud  1887

POLLARD  William Henry:  father William, arrived by 1884 ASHMORE
BORN c1848  Mousehole CON ENG  DIED 4.11.1930 Adelaide buried Cheltenham SA  Occ: Fisherman, Gardener  residing Exeter, Largs Bay, Semaphore married:  Mary Susan KLISKEY  born c1848 Newlyn CON ENG  Died 1.2.1907 Exeter  buried Cheltenham   arrived SA  1.10.1884 with husband
children:  Mary LONSDALE C1872, Annie/Hannah Kliskey BOYCE  24.11.1875-29.1.1946,  Wm Henry c1878-28.4.1898
2nd marriage: 29.9.1913 Adelaide QUIGNEY Mrs Sarah Martha nee Tracey born 6.3.1862 Adelaide  to Mark.  Died  29.5.1928 SA  buried Cheltenham.   No children

Not sure that that provided much at all - Sashar



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Re: Pollard & Carmichael families in South Australia
« Reply #8 on: Friday 23 February 07 02:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi Krisis Joint

I saw the request re the Pollard and Carmichael families.

I was in the South Australian State Library yesterday, where I do all my reearch, and I did some looking up for information re the Pollard and carmichael families.  The following is what I did manage to find.

ARRIVAL FORM OVERSEAS.

William Pollard, wife Caroline nee George, and infatn son, William Henry arrived in South Autralia 24th September 1847 aboard the "RAJAH" which sailed from London via Plymouth

MARRIAGE.

William Henry Pollard, aged 30 years, son of William Pollard married Mary Ann aged 20 years, single, daughtr of William Richard Carmichael 7th February 1877 at Lutheran Parsonage, Rosenthal, District Barossa reference book 110 page 451.

CHILDREN BORN TO WILLIAM HENRY POLLARD 7 MARY ANN CARMICHAEL.

1. Nelson Hugh born 17th February 1877 in Kersbrook, District Talunga.

2. Samuel Louis born 4th April 1878 in Kersbrook District Talunga

3. William Holland Carmichael born 29th Novemebr 1879 in Angaston, District Barossa.

4. Percy George born 16th June 1883 in Angaston, Disrict Barossa

5. Leslie born 10th April 1886 in Angaston, District Barossa

6. Reginald Andrew born 2nd November 1888 in Angaston, District Barossa

7. Mayann Lucilla born 7th February 1891 in Angaston District Barossa

8. Murial born c1896 in Penhurst, Victoria

9. Dulcie Vera born 19th November 1897 in Emu Bay

MARRIAGE

Leslie Howard Gordon Pollard married 28th February 1910 in Angaston to Dora Myra Gooding.

MARRIAGE

William Richard Carmichael, widower, aged 35 years, father's name not recorded married Mary Ann Howard Holland, aged 23 years, single, father's name not recorded married 28th May 1856 at residence of Richad Carmichael, Kooringa District TMu. referenc ebook 26 ape 364 symbol 'V' denoting - The Registrar has made a variation to some of the information.  A "V" usually denotes there is a spelling variation.

BIRTH/DEATH

Mary Ann Howard Holland born 1836 in Co. Cork, Ieland, and died 16th January 1903, place of death not recorded.



WILLIAM RICHARD CARMICHAEL.

William Richard Carmichael born 1819 in Dublin, Ireland, and died 18th November 1873 in Freeling, South Australia.

William Richard was the son of Andrew Blair Carmichael and Jane Caldbeck.

Andrew Blair Carmichael Snr. born 1782 in Dublin Ireland and died 1822 place of death not recorded.

Andrew Blair Carmichael, Clerk of the Crown, who married Jane Moore.

Andrew Blair Carmichael Junior married Jane Caldbeck in Lisburn, North Ireland.

The above is all I had time to look up further information, so hope the above is of some interest.

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