Messham

[Rosedale]

Searching for a Mary Catherine Messham born in 1897 who married a Richard Rosedale in 1915. Can anybody give me anymore information? I'd love to find out more about her childhood - siblings and so on but I couldn't find anything when I was out.

Also searching for family of a Mary Elizabeth Messham, born the same year (searching for somebody else), I think around Ewloe/Buckley area. Can anybody give me info on her parents and siblings?

[JeannieR]

Hi There...

Haven't found Mary Ann Messham yet, but this is Mary Elizabeth (the only one)

1901

Lane End , Prince of Wales Row, Buckley

William Messham / 46 / coal miner
Mary / wife / 37
Bertha / daughter / age 9
Edith / daughter / age 6
MARY E / daughter / age 4
Lily / daughter / age 1

Do you have the marriage certificate of your Mary and Richard,
this will give fathers name and occupation.

The name Messham, goes back quite a long time in the area. I have Parish registers of Hawarden, and they are mentioned in the 1727-1741, if that is any good to you in the future....

Will have a look for Mary Ann...name could be mistranscribed..

Best wishes

JeannieR

[Rosedale]

It's a Mary Catherine, not Anne. I don't have a marriage certificate, no. I've traced Richard's family and I know he didn't move out of the area at all and settled in Flintshire too. I also know she was definitely born in 1879 - but I don't know anything about her family.

Thanks for the info on Mary Elizabeth though 

[JeannieR]

Hi again...

Most have been a senior moment !!

I have found her birth registration

Mary Catherine Messham/ March 1897 / Holywell / vol 11b page 224

But nothing at all on the census yet. There are not may Mary Messhams at all in Flintshire of about that age....If it is there, something has gone dreadfully wrong !!

JeannieR

[Rosedale]

Oh, I did mean 1897 sorry, not 1879 obviously. Anyway, that's definitely her - But no census of 1901 to back her up. She's definitely in the area though so I don't know what's going on - she married a Rosedale in 1915. She died young in 1936. But because of the lack of census, there's nothing to fill in any gaps - or to know anything of her background.

The only thing I can think of is that for some reason it's simply just not there, or because Messham's not spelt right? I don't know.

[JeannieR]

Eureka !!!

Found her .........

Mistranscribed as McOcham , but written Measham on the image !

(There are 259 Marys' born 1897-1898 in Holywell...tried them all )

RG13 / 5214 / 170 / 31

Spor Green , Holywell .

Richard Jenkins / head / age 38 / man in brickworks
Mary A Jenkins / wife / age 28
Samuel McOcham/ Measham / age 8 / Stepson
Mary McOcham / Measham / age 4 / Step Daughter

All born Buckley

Mary Ann MESSHAM/ Richard Jenkins / Dec 1899 / Holywell / vol 11b page 413

I am glad I found that .

Best Wishes

JeannieR

[Rosedale]

Thank you very much. I see they're down as stepchildren. Yet another twist.

[JeannieR]

Rosedale....

I looked for "Messham" deaths  1897-1899 . Only one male.....

William Messham / age 28 / Holywell / Mar 1899 / 11b page 177

William MESSHAM / Mary Ann GRIFFITHS / Holywell / Dec 1890 / vol 11b page 470......

JeannieR

[Rosedale]

Do you think that could be Mary C's brother? Or a longshot?