William and Bertha GELDER

[Trisha]

hI,
does anyone have any information on the following couple and their family?

William GELDER-
Bertha Ragsdell-his wife
they married in 1930 in North Bierley.
I know of one child-
Tom GELDER.

Many thanks to any one who can help.
Trisha

[lisachloe]

I don't know if this is of any help but, I remember reading about a "Bertha Gelder" in the death's section of my local paper the Wakefield Express. I think it said she lived at Dacre Avenue, Lupset,Wakefield.
I knew some Gelders of Lupset & I'm sure she was their grandmother, their father was called Harry - so this could've been one of her other sons.

[Catswhiskers]

Death

GELDER, BERTHA  19 October 1904 BRADFORD  1988 December Volume No 4
Page No 199
Reg No 1288 

[Trisha]

Hi Catswhiskers,
yes thats her.Thanks for the info.
Trisha.

[Trisha]

Hi Lisachloe,,
I can't make my mind up if it's my Bertha Gelder or not that you've found.I don't suppose you can remember when approximately you saw that obituary in the Wakefield paper?
As yet the children of her's I've found are called Dorreen,Dorothy(who I think became a Mrs Benson),Joan and Tom(who I think married a girl with the surname Wilkie).They were all born in the 1930's and lived in the Baildon area at the time.There could very possibly be a Harry in there somewhere.My investigations into the Gelder's is by no means total.Harry could even be her grandson?
I don't suppose you can remember anything else about this family can you?It would be of great help to me.
Trisha

[lisachloe]

I've been speaking with my mother regarding the Gelders & to her knowledge Harry married a  (Madge) Marjorie, they had Graham & Helen who would be 40yrs+ June would've been on her 40's but died 3/4 yrs ago & Roy in his late 30's now.
We can't remember when Bertha died but I would guess around 5yrs ago.
My father thinks they have a photo of her in a pub called the Spotted Leopard, Wakefield around 1965, with Harry & Magde & some of their children. He's going to find it out - hoping he's still got it.

[Laura Daniel]

Hi not sure if anyone will reply as i realise its now been a few years since this was posted but I'm trying to trace my family tree and have come across this forum. William and bertha gelder where my great grand parents. I was wondering if you managed to find any more information out about them.

[chempat]

Welcome to rootschat, Laura.

Trisha does not appear to have been active on rootschat for many years, but lisachloe still posts, so may be able to answer you.

Have you got William and Bertha's marriage certificate for information about their Fathers?

[chempat]

This looks like Bertha's birth (from GRO)
Bertha Ragsdell mmn Bend  born December quarter 1904 in Bradford      

and this could be her parents' marriage:
Marriage June quarter 1900 
Sarah Ellen Bend  Spalding   
John William Ragsdell     Spalding

Do you have access to  the censuses etc as John William Ragsdell is a fairly distinctive name and so (probably) easy for you to find lots about.