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Re: What happened to John McCourt?
« Reply #9 on: Friday 14 September 18 14:02 BST (UK) »
Today Isabella and John's marriage certificate arrived.
John was a pit man, son of John McCourt, also a pit man.
They lived at Byers Green, Durham.
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
DUR-Bainbridge,Hodgson,Richardson,Walker,Thompson,Armory,Wynn,Humble,Dunn,Chapman,Herin
YKS-Bradley,Hellawell,Dransfield,Sanderson,Gledhill,Mallinson,Tyas,Thornton,Nobel,Brook,Senior,Bower,Kay,Hirst,Smith,Lockwood, Clayton,Rollinson,Swallow
NTHNTS-Hubbard,Line,Goate,Tyler,Weed,Warren,Brown,Hollowell,Bird,Kirby,Dolby,Gilbert,Wootton
NFK-Burton,Myhill,Fisher,Thompson
LNRK-Neilson,Dudson,Forrest,McNight,Paterson
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Re: What happened to John McCourt?
« Reply #10 on: Friday 14 September 18 22:23 BST (UK) »
Found a birth after seeing a death in the newspaper

MCCOURT, JOHN        MMN Thompson      
GRO Reference: 1864  M Quarter in AUCKLAND  Volume 10A  Page 172

Durham County Advertiser 15 November 1867

At Willington-9th, John, son of the late Mr John McCourt, coal-miner, aged 3

Can't see anything else referring to John Snr

Amended, ***meant to add Isabella is in Willington 1881

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Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

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Re: What happened to John McCourt?
« Reply #11 on: Friday 14 September 18 22:44 BST (UK) »
Thank you,

So they had baby John in Durham, he didn't die in the USA, Thomas was born in the states, John senior died in the states and John junior on returning to Durham. How tragic for Isabella 😞
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
DUR-Bainbridge,Hodgson,Richardson,Walker,Thompson,Armory,Wynn,Humble,Dunn,Chapman,Herin
YKS-Bradley,Hellawell,Dransfield,Sanderson,Gledhill,Mallinson,Tyas,Thornton,Nobel,Brook,Senior,Bower,Kay,Hirst,Smith,Lockwood, Clayton,Rollinson,Swallow
NTHNTS-Hubbard,Line,Goate,Tyler,Weed,Warren,Brown,Hollowell,Bird,Kirby,Dolby,Gilbert,Wootton
NFK-Burton,Myhill,Fisher,Thompson
LNRK-Neilson,Dudson,Forrest,McNight,Paterson
WL-Williams

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Re: What happened to John McCourt?
« Reply #12 on: Friday 14 September 18 22:50 BST (UK) »
It's John's birth 1863 in England that I posted, just trying to find out more ???
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Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

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Re: What happened to John McCourt?
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 15 September 18 06:49 BST (UK) »
Who was Isabell's father on the marriage certificate.

1851 and 1861 there is an Isabella Thompson in Byers Green, however she is still there unmarried in 1871.

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Re: What happened to John McCourt?
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 15 September 18 07:45 BST (UK) »
Isabella's father's is Thomas Thompson, a blacksmith. X
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
DUR-Bainbridge,Hodgson,Richardson,Walker,Thompson,Armory,Wynn,Humble,Dunn,Chapman,Herin
YKS-Bradley,Hellawell,Dransfield,Sanderson,Gledhill,Mallinson,Tyas,Thornton,Nobel,Brook,Senior,Bower,Kay,Hirst,Smith,Lockwood, Clayton,Rollinson,Swallow
NTHNTS-Hubbard,Line,Goate,Tyler,Weed,Warren,Brown,Hollowell,Bird,Kirby,Dolby,Gilbert,Wootton
NFK-Burton,Myhill,Fisher,Thompson
LNRK-Neilson,Dudson,Forrest,McNight,Paterson
WL-Williams

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Re: What happened to John McCourt?
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 15 September 18 11:19 BST (UK) »
Cannot find Isabella in 1841
1851 Haswell Durham
Thomas Thompson 39 Broughton Yorkshire, blacksmith  (1861 Brompton)
Jane 36 born Houghton Durham
Isabella 11 born Northallerton Yorkshire  registered 1839
John 8 born Easington Durham     registered 1842 as John Watson Thompson
Thomas 4      same                      registered 1844
Joseph 3          same                    registered 1848
William 9 months?  same              registered 1850 
ADDED all have mothers maiden name Watson

Thomas Thompson married Jane Watson March 1839 Northallerton, one transcription has 20th another has 25th.

So Isabella's first daughter named after her mother.

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Re: What happened to John McCourt?
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 15 September 18 11:36 BST (UK) »
reply 11 has the situation summed up.
You are related to Isabella Thompson and not John McCourt but just in case the following is most likely for his parents.
1851 West Auckland Durham
John McCaurt 37 born Ireland coal miner (name as transcribed)
Jane 36 born Newcastle   (widowed in 1861)
John 13  coal miner born Newcastle
James 11 born North Shields
Thomas 7 born Newcastle
Joseph 5 born Wingate
Mary J born Leadgate  (1861 Marcy Jane)
Edward 8 months born West Auckland.

His mothers maiden name was Jane Otway.

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Re: What happened to John McCourt?
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 15 September 18 11:45 BST (UK) »
Thank you both so much. This is great x
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
DUR-Bainbridge,Hodgson,Richardson,Walker,Thompson,Armory,Wynn,Humble,Dunn,Chapman,Herin
YKS-Bradley,Hellawell,Dransfield,Sanderson,Gledhill,Mallinson,Tyas,Thornton,Nobel,Brook,Senior,Bower,Kay,Hirst,Smith,Lockwood, Clayton,Rollinson,Swallow
NTHNTS-Hubbard,Line,Goate,Tyler,Weed,Warren,Brown,Hollowell,Bird,Kirby,Dolby,Gilbert,Wootton
NFK-Burton,Myhill,Fisher,Thompson
LNRK-Neilson,Dudson,Forrest,McNight,Paterson
WL-Williams