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Mary Ann Davies
« on: Wednesday 02 May 07 21:33 BST (UK) »
My husband's grandmother, Mary Ann Hawker nee Davies was born in Aston, Birmingham in 1874. Her parents were George Davies (Grocer) and Ann Davies both of Wales (Not Known). She was married to Alfred Theodore Hawker and I have their wedding certificate, which is where I found the information about her parents. How do I go about researching the Davies connection and where her parents came from in Wales. Ann Davies died in 1929 aged 79 and is buried in St. Matthews Churchyard, Duddeston, Birmingham.
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Re: Mary Ann Davies
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 02 May 07 22:25 BST (UK) »
Hi Ankerdine

I would have a go at the 1881 census which is free and which states the occupation of the head of household - grocer should be relatively easy to spot!

I will try to remember to come back & see how you get on, so post here...

kind regards, Arranroots  ;)

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Mary Ann Davies
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 02 May 07 22:42 BST (UK) »
In 1881 she is showing as the Grandaughter of a Peter Davies who was born in Shrewsbury Shropshire in c 1814,and his Wife Martha.unfortunately this couple are not showing in 18611,but in 1851,they do have a son George aged eight,but his Birthplace is not clearly showing.

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Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Mary Ann Davies
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 02 May 07 22:54 BST (UK) »
This looks like Mary Ann in 1901
No 1 Back of 104 Willis St
Aston Birmingham
Ann Davies Head Widow 51 Wales NK
Alfred T Hawker son in law 26 Cycle Stamper
Mary Ann Hawker daughter 27
Gertie Hawker Granddaughter 3
Edith Ethel granddaughter 2
Alfred Frank Hawker grandson 7mths
Samuel Herbert Boarder 21 Brass Finisher

all except Ann b. Birmingham

RG13 2870 90 1

Problem is the only Ann Davies I have located is in 1871 where she is 21 unmarried b. Wales NK and working as a servant in Birnmingham

Does the marriage cert say George was deceased?

Who were witnesses at the marriage-may give an extra clue if they were family

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Re: Mary Ann Davies
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 03 May 07 18:25 BST (UK) »
Thanks to you all for your replies. I will sort out additional information and post. Yes, the 1901 census info is accurate. George was deceased on the wedding certificate but I will have to check the names of the witnesses to see if it helps. We just remember husband's father saying "the family (don't know which one, whether mother's or father's) came from The Malverns on the back of a cart". Ever heard that one before, eh?
Blair, Marshall, Williamson - Ayrshire, Wigtownshire
Saxton, Sketchley - Nottinghamshire, Leicestershire
Brown, Green - Rutland
Hawker, Malone, Bradbury, Arnott, Turner, Woodings, Blakemore, Upton, Merricks - Warwickshire, Staffordshire
Silvers, Dudley, Worcs
Deakin - Staffordshire

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Re: Mary Ann Davies
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 03 May 07 19:20 BST (UK) »
Whilst it was not perhaps ideal transportation Ankerdine,at least there were very little Carbon emissions!

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William Russell Jones
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Wrexham.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
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Re: Mary Ann Davies
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 03 May 07 20:42 BST (UK) »
Needless to say I just hope this story was true. It's the country which is beyond the Malverns which is ellusive!
I had a quick look on the 1881 census but couldn't locate any George Davies who could be the one. Perhaps I will have another look.
Mary Ann married on 19 April 1897, aged 23, in St. Saviours Church, Saltley, not St. Matthews, Duddeston, as I quoted before.  Witnesses were listed as Charles Humphries and Martha Astbury, neither of whom are known in the surviving family.
On Ann Davies' death card dated January 14th, 1929, she was Aged 79 years so, possibly was born in 1849. No talk of any siblings either I'm afraid.
More research must be done on this one.
Blair, Marshall, Williamson - Ayrshire, Wigtownshire
Saxton, Sketchley - Nottinghamshire, Leicestershire
Brown, Green - Rutland
Hawker, Malone, Bradbury, Arnott, Turner, Woodings, Blakemore, Upton, Merricks - Warwickshire, Staffordshire
Silvers, Dudley, Worcs
Deakin - Staffordshire

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Re: Mary Ann Davies
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 03 May 07 21:29 BST (UK) »
With apologies to William Russell Jones. I hadn't taken in what you posted earlier. Upon searching LDS I came across your findings (1881 census) and they make very good sense, although Ann is daughter not daughter-in-law. You say that you found George on the 1851 aged 8 - do you think you can possibly find anything further for me please?
Blair, Marshall, Williamson - Ayrshire, Wigtownshire
Saxton, Sketchley - Nottinghamshire, Leicestershire
Brown, Green - Rutland
Hawker, Malone, Bradbury, Arnott, Turner, Woodings, Blakemore, Upton, Merricks - Warwickshire, Staffordshire
Silvers, Dudley, Worcs
Deakin - Staffordshire

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Re: Mary Ann Davies
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 03 May 07 22:31 BST (UK) »
It is extremely difficult to get any sort of angle on it.I have been trying to find George in 1871 but to no avail.

Regards
William Russell Jones
Cefn Mawr
Wrexham.
Jones, Griffiths. Stephens, Parry, Gabriel, Conway, Hughes, Evans, Roberts, Lea, Hanmer. Peake, Edwards. Newnes, Davies. Thomas. "Blythin".
All North Wales.
Conway, Durber, Cartlidge, Lovatt, Bebington. Brindley, Sankey, Brunt. Dean. Clewes. Rhodes. Mountford,Walker,Bache, "Gibbons"Hood. Taylor
All Stoke-on-Trent.
Francis - Nantwich Cheshire.
Dennell - Cheshire/Staffordshire.
Talbot-Shropshire
Census Information Is Crown Copyright,from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk