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Bowden & Goulde Family
« on: Saturday 12 May 07 08:23 BST (UK) »
Have just discovered my hubby's family are from Wales, and living in Greenock Scotland at the time of the 1891 census

Eliza Ann  Bowden -  aged 18 (Born around 1871/72) on the 1891 census.  Eliza's parents are Wiliam Bowden and Eliza Goulde.  William died at some point as according to the 1891 census her mother is now Eliza Britton, married to a John Britton from Ireland.

Eliza Bowden details from the IGI

Birth:    25 OCT 1871     

 
Christening    27 NOV 1872     Saint Mary, Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales



Eliza had a brother George  aged 16??? 1891 census -  hard to read as it has been scored out

Her step sisters/brother are

Thomas aged 13
Helen M aged 7
Eliza J aged 5
John aged 3

all of the above born Wales

any help would be appreciated -  thanks
Beaton Bethune, Campbell -  ROC
Mitchell Leslie - Aberdeen
Mackintosh, Anderson (Provost) -  Inverness
Boyle, Mckechnie, McPhail, Fulton  - Ireland, Greenock, Kilbrachan
Pearce, Curnoe/Curnow -  Cornwall
Patterson, Robson, Sloan, Campbell, Dixon, Wilson, Ritson, Hedley, Vipond, Coulson -  South Shields, Sunderland, Northumberland, Cumberland
Kitcheham/Kitchingham, Gage -  Kent

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Re: Bowden & Goulde Family
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 12 May 07 10:13 BST (UK) »
Hi Mary,

IGI gives another likely child for this couple, extracted record

Mary Jane Bowden
Birth : 26/6/1869 - Christening 22/12/1869 St Mary Swansea

Likely Marriage - March Q 1869 William Bowden - Elizabeth Gould Swansea 11a 685

1871 census - RG10/5457/5/ pg 4 Swansea

William Bowden, hd, m, 22, lab, North Molton, Devon
Elizabeth " , wife, 18, Swansea Glamorgan
Mary Jane " dau, 1, Swansea, Glam
Thomas Harris, 21, Boarder, lab, Shepton Mallet, Somerset.

Possible death - William Bowden March Q 1879 age 29 Swansea 11a 432

Possible remarriage - Elizabeth Bowden - John Britten Dec Q 1881 Swansea 11a 1008

1881 is available free to search online, will take a look to see if I can help locate.

Hope this helps some

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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: Bowden & Goulde Family
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 12 May 07 10:38 BST (UK) »
think this might be them in 1881
20 Jersey St, Swansea RG10/5355 folio 17 pgs 45-46
Eliza Bawston head widow 27 home b. Swansea
Eliza Ann dau 9 b. Swansea
George Gould Bawston son 2 b. Swansea
William Henry Gould cousin 17 b. Swansea
John Gould cousin 14 b. Swansea
Robert Gould cousin 11 b. Swansea
William Barnett boarder 42 labourer b. Gloucester
Mary Barnett boarder 42 b. Hereford
Walter John Barnett 7 b. Swansea
William Henry Barnett 10 months b. Swansea

death reg
William Bowden aged 29 dec qtr 1879 Swansea vol 11a pg 432

remarriage
Elizabeth Bowden dec qtr 1881 Swansea vol 11a pg 1008 with John Britten on the same page
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Bowden & Goulde Family
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 12 May 07 10:44 BST (UK) »
Found possible Mary Jane...mistranscribed as Bowen

1881 - RG11/5367/30/25
16 Norton Row, Oystermouth, Swansea

Eliza Gould, hd, w, 59, market gardener, Cuscome La ???
Wm Hy Gould, 22, son, unmar, dom gardener Swansea
Mary Jane Bowen, 11 grandau, Swansea

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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: Bowden & Goulde Family
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 12 May 07 11:03 BST (UK) »
1861 205 High St, Welsh Oak, Swansea rg9/4106 folio 12 pg 18
William Gould head mar 34 eating house keeper . Devon, North Molton
Jane wife 36 b. Devon, North Molton
Elizabeth dau 7 b. Swansea
Mary Jane dau 5 b. Swansea
William son 2 b. Swansea
Joseph Richard son 9 months b. Swansea
plus lodgers, servants & boarders

1871 4 Camden St, Swansea RG10/5451 folio 26 pg 2
William Gold head mar 44 haulier b. North Molton
Eliza wife 44 b. Somerset (can't read parish, but not the same as 1881)
Mary J dau 16 scholar b. Swansea
William H son 12 scholar b. Swansea
Joseph R 10 son scholar b. Swansea
plys 4 lodgers

so Mary Jane in 1881 looks good

death reg
Jane Gould aged 44 sept qtr 1869 Swansea vol 11a pg 279
remarriage
William Gould mar qtr 1870 Swansea vol 11a pg 652 with Eliza Bale on the same page
not much luck with marriages in this family
 :-\
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Bowden & Goulde Family
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 12 May 07 11:15 BST (UK) »
with a little help from Genuki, Eliza's pob in 1871 is Oare.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Bowden & Goulde Family
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 12 May 07 12:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Osprey/Mary, got called away..good finds.

1851 - H0107/1864/338/8
Salcombe Regis, Devon

Head by John Taylor & large family

William Gould 24, Visitor, farm lab, Northmolton, Devon

Same page next house up is Jane Gould age 26, born Credition Devon, Cook to John Farrell (county judge) & Family.

Possible marriage - Sept Q 1852 William Gould - Jane Gould Swansea 11a 619

Spec I know, but interesting.  Could be proved/disproved via certs perhaps kissing cousins, their unrelated or red herring!

Also pob  ??? for Eliza Gould (second wife of Will in 1881)

possible - 1891 RG12/4404/48/19 Cardiff Union Workhouse

Elisabeth Gould, wid, 65, pauper inmate, Shepton Somerset.

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Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall

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Re: Bowden & Goulde Family
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 12 May 07 13:05 BST (UK) »
Well, that makes sense of the 1881 pob for Elizabeth. There's a Croscombe 2 miles from Shepton Mallet, but doesn't help with Oare as that is between Porlock and Lynton.  :-\

Getting one of the birth certs would help with the maiden name
Joseph Richard Gould sept qtr 1860 Swansea vol 11a pg 503
Elizabeth Gould sept qtr 1853 Swansea vol 11a pg 399
 
Think that marriage for William & Jane looks a likely prospect.
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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Bowden & Goulde Family
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 12 May 07 14:35 BST (UK) »
Checked the IGI Hugh Wallis site for North Molton.  The are many Gould and varient.  Also Bowden/Bawden.  Would keep 'Bawden' in mind when searching census for this family.

There is a poss for William in 1851 parents Henry/Elizabeth Bawden. but you need to confirm with certs to know you are tracking the right family.

Let us know how you get on...

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Census information is Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Gibbons, Mordecai/Mort, Squire, Thomas, David/Davies, Joseph, Bowen, Lewis, Rees, Williams, Jones, Llewellyn, Morgan - Glam
Gibbons, Timbrell, Beale, Ludlow - Glos/Wilts
Davies, Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Lloyd, Jones - Denbigh/Salop
Shoemac, Squire, Keirle, Small - Somerset
Berry, Baggot, Lee, Clayton - Lancs
Baggot, Hurley, Keaveny, Shiel, Flynn - Ireland
Bray - Cornwall