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Offline Helen K

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Eaglesham
« on: Saturday 12 May 07 15:39 BST (UK) »
Could someone please tell me the correct pronunciation of Eaglesham?

Is it Eagles ham?

or Eagle sham?

or something else?


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Helen K
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Re: Eaglesham
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 12 May 07 15:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Helen

The pronunciation is Eagle sham

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Matchett - Angus, Ayrshire and Co Armagh NI
Dick        - Kilmarnock, Ayrshire
McFarland - Co Derry, NI
Russell     - Peebleshire
Koehler/Kohler  - East Prussia, Germany
Nairn  - Ayrshire
Young  - Ayrshire.

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Re: Eaglesham
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 12 May 07 15:49 BST (UK) »
Thanks Anne

Much appreciated


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Helen K
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Re: Eaglesham
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 12 May 07 18:26 BST (UK) »
I beg to differ: Eagle sum is how my rellies pronounce it!

kind regards, Arranroots  ;)



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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Eaglesham
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 12 May 07 18:28 BST (UK) »
was trying to be polite...lol
 
I suppose it would be sort of

Eagleshum
Matchett - Angus, Ayrshire and Co Armagh NI
Dick        - Kilmarnock, Ayrshire
McFarland - Co Derry, NI
Russell     - Peebleshire
Koehler/Kohler  - East Prussia, Germany
Nairn  - Ayrshire
Young  - Ayrshire.

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Re: Eaglesham
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 12 May 07 18:30 BST (UK) »
Well, definitely an "sss" rather than a "shhh" in the middle, anyway!

 ;D ;D

(could be that they need new teeth, lol!)

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)

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Re: Eaglesham
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 13 May 07 11:44 BST (UK) »
Definitely never a "shhh" in the middle. On those rare occasions when I go home to see my mum and then go out, that's one way in which (after 15 years absence) I can still pick out the incomers and strangers in the pub ;D .

After being spelt Egglesham when it first appears on record in 1161 (not 1157 as often wrongly quoted) it was more or less consistently spelt Eglisham and Eglishame until the mid 1700s when most writers switched to Eaglesham or Eagleshame.  However in the 1680s an "ignorant" soldier in despatches neatly summed up even the modern pronunciation by writing "Eglesum". 

Except in my mum's "telephone voice" (when it ends in "ham" not "um") Arranroots has it down to a "t" (so to speak)...
Family: Ramsay, Taylor, Dewar, Halley, McQueen (all Clackmannan & Dollar); Fitzcharles (Scotland - Glasgow and Mearns, not Arbroath, Dundee or Grangemouth); Hill & Turpin (each both in Cornwall & Govan); McLean (Glasgow); McCallum & McPhail (Loch Awe).
Topographical: Eaglesham & Mearns (Renfrewshire); Clackmannanshire; Corstorphine (Midlothian).
Research: Gilmour of Eaglesham; Gilmour of Hillhead; Prof. Francesco Jannetti (translator,  La Favorita).

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Re: Eaglesham
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 13 May 07 11:46 BST (UK) »
Maybe its my Ayrshire accent...lol
I am from Kilmarnock and I have always pronounced it as
Eagleshum... lol

Matchett - Angus, Ayrshire and Co Armagh NI
Dick        - Kilmarnock, Ayrshire
McFarland - Co Derry, NI
Russell     - Peebleshire
Koehler/Kohler  - East Prussia, Germany
Nairn  - Ayrshire
Young  - Ayrshire.

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Re: Eaglesham
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 13 May 07 12:16 BST (UK) »
Raven-Anne - that must be it!

I'm in danger of getting off topic (moderator please note it's geographically near to Eaglesham and I can't see a way to cross-post into Ayrshire!) but out of interest how would you pronounce Moscow (Ayrshire)?

I was always brought up to say Moss-cow, but recently read somewher that it actually was named after the Russian city after Napolean's 1812 defeat...
Family: Ramsay, Taylor, Dewar, Halley, McQueen (all Clackmannan & Dollar); Fitzcharles (Scotland - Glasgow and Mearns, not Arbroath, Dundee or Grangemouth); Hill & Turpin (each both in Cornwall & Govan); McLean (Glasgow); McCallum & McPhail (Loch Awe).
Topographical: Eaglesham & Mearns (Renfrewshire); Clackmannanshire; Corstorphine (Midlothian).
Research: Gilmour of Eaglesham; Gilmour of Hillhead; Prof. Francesco Jannetti (translator,  La Favorita).