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Re: Watermen and lighter-men Apprenticeships Bindings Look up Please?
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 27 May 07 18:29 BST (UK) »
Hi Nanny Jan

Sorry I can't really be of any further help. The indexes do not say why this was not completed. I have checked some original bindings I have for my family and it is unusual to mention why the apprenticeship was not completed. I have checked the reassignments and nothing is listed for Henry Langham.

A normal apprenticeship lasted 7 years and therefore whatever caused Henry to stop his apprenticeship must have happened before 1860, are there any clues in the 1861 census?

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Jamie
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Challis and Jarvis Battersea/Clapham
Elsey, Crown and Buck - Norfolk
Dean - Westminster
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Re: Watermen and lighter-men Apprenticeships Bindings Look up Please?
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 27 May 07 18:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Jamie,

Sadly the 1861 census sheets for that part of Woolwich are lost/destroyed; just thought it might give me so more info about JH Pain.

Thanks for checking for me,

Nanny Jan
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
Henman/ KNT   Gandy/LDN before 1830  Burgess/LDN
Barham/SFK   Rainer/CAN (Toronto) Gillians/CAN  Sturgeon/CAN (Vancouver)
Bailey/LDN Page/KNT   Paling/WA (var)



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Re: Watermen and lighter-men Apprenticeships Bindings Look up Please?
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 27 May 07 21:42 BST (UK) »
Thank you Suzey for the lookups

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Re: Watermen and lighter-men Apprenticeships Bindings Look up Please?
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 27 May 07 21:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Prue

I cannot find a Jethro Dobson in the apprentice bindings or in the "Contracts for over aged boys 1868-1926"

I suspect that Eton would be inside of the area covered by the Company Of Watermen and Lightermen as I believe that they covered from Windsor to Gravesend.

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Sue

Ah well, thanks for having a look anyway Sue  :)  much appreciated.
Cheers
Prue


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Re: Watermen and lighter-men Apprenticeships Bindings Look up Please?
« Reply #13 on: Monday 02 July 07 22:27 BST (UK) »
Hello Suzey
I also have just found your thread and am hoping you would be kind enough to do a look up for me.   The names I am looking for are Farson and Ward.  Would really appreciate as hopefully this will take me a little further with my forebear research
Many Thanks
Val

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Re: Watermen and lighter-men Apprenticeships Bindings Look up Please?
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 03 July 07 15:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Val

Any chance for some more info like first names, years and a area so I can narrow it down.

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Sue
Haver. Rogers, Perry, Babington, Eames, Sewell and Dean - Southwark/Lambeth and surrounding areas
Challis and Jarvis Battersea/Clapham
Elsey, Crown and Buck - Norfolk
Dean - Westminster
Dunkerton - West Pennard, Somerset

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« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 03 July 07 15:51 BST (UK) »
Hello Sue
Thankyou for replying.  I am looking for William Farson born around 1800 not sure which side of the river he was born but I  think he and his family were from Southwark.  He married my GGgrandmother Sarah Ward in 1818 at St Leonards Shoreditch.  Her father was John Ward born around 1770/80 who came from East London.
Not sure if this is much help but will keep my fingers crossed.
Thankyou once again
Val

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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 04 July 07 19:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Val

Had a look but as you might know Ward is a poplar name so I just look for a John around the time he could be bounded.

Jno Bryan Ward bound 30/10/1788 in Barking to John Brasire completed 22/09/1796
John Ward bound 30/06/1785 in Wandsworth to William Peart completed 27/09/1792

Here are the Farson, James is the first Farson I could find.

James Farson bound 29/01/1747 in St.Saviours to Edmund Smith completed16/01/1756
Stockson Farson bound 10/04/1777 in St.Savours to James Farsons completed 15/04/1784
Richard Farson bound 19/06/1806 in Bankside to Stockdon Farson completed 28/10/1813
Stephen Farson bound 13/11/1800 in St.Saviours to Stockdon Farson completed 03/12/1807
William Farson bound 11/08/1808 in Bankside  to Stephen Farson completed 26/10/1815

Hope this helps. If you need any more help please ask.

Sue
Haver. Rogers, Perry, Babington, Eames, Sewell and Dean - Southwark/Lambeth and surrounding areas
Challis and Jarvis Battersea/Clapham
Elsey, Crown and Buck - Norfolk
Dean - Westminster
Dunkerton - West Pennard, Somerset

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Re: Watermen and lighter-men Apprenticeships Bindings Look up Please?
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 04 July 07 20:13 BST (UK) »
Hello Sue
Thankyou very much for your time and help, also for the offer of further help if needed.  The info you have found has helped me greatly and is much appreciated.
Many Thanks again
Val