Hollands from Horsham

[Maggott]

Hi 

This pic has "the Holland family" written on the back - From the women's clothes it dates from late 1890's.  This is confirmed by the name of the photographer, which is on the back of the original.

The chap at the back is probably John Holland, has anyone any ideas about the others?

Here's hoping!

Maggott.

[Jane Masri]

That's a tall order, Maggott    Great picture & I would agree with you about the date, 1890's probably nearer 1895 when the large leg-of mutton sleeves were at the height of fashion.
Do you have dates for John Holland.  Who/ when/where he married?  The only people in the pic who might be of another generation, possibly daughters are the 2 girls seated in front. 

jane

[Maggott]

Hi Jane  Yes, it is a tall order but I was hoping for the million to one chance - another Rootschatter recognising one of the people.  As you say, the young girls look to be daughters/grand-daughters of the people behind them.  A cousin suspects the girl on the left may be a daughter of William Wood & Ann (nee) Holland - she married & became Mrs Wooldridge.
I personally wouldn't mess with the woman on the extreme left in the middle row- but was she my 4xGt Granny....
Best  Maggott

[lizdb]

So -what Hoolands are there on 1891 and 1901 census, that might fit in with this group? you say they were in Horsham, so that would narrow it considerably

[Indaloman]

FREECEN shows 1891 Census for Hollands in Horsham as:

Alfred Head 21 Agri.

Avis Wife 18

Frederick Son 9

George Holland Lodger 35 Lab.

Harry Head 35 Lab

Harry Son 7

Sarah Daug. 10

But these would all appear to be too young to fit the photo. The address was Bonfire Hill in Southwater a village just outside of Horsham, are you sure they came from Horsham?

[Jane Masri]

Maggott,
This might make an interesting exercise for Sussex Rootschatters    It's surprising what can be found out from very little information, okay, it's all speculation at the end of the day as to who is who, that will never be known with any certainty but it could be fun.
If you're up for it we'll need dates of birth, marriages, siblings, deaths etc.  You seem to know the photographers dates of trading, who was he & when did he trade?
To start the ball rolling, my insinctive reaction to the photo was that all the adults are of about the same generation so maybe brother's & sister's?  The 2 girls might be daughters?
Anyone else going to join in?

jane

[lizdb]

sounds fun

Now, Maggot knows that one of the ladies is his GGGGgranny, so maybe she is the one to start with - did she by any chance have this many brothers and sisters?

They do seem to all a family resemblamce, same eyes, if you ask me.

[Jane Masri]

Obviously up for a challenge, Liz 
Maggott said the gent in the back was John Holland (holding a cheroot) & the portly lady seated far left was his/her 4x grandmother.
My observations:  Was this a wedding?  4x great granny seems to be sporting a flower & the lady standing far right also (although it might be a bit of the background foliage    All the others look to be in their Sunday best also.  Was this set -up in the churchyard as
it's an outside photograph?  If the family decided to have a group photo I'm sure it would have been in a studio.
The adults all appear to be in their fifties maybe early sixties.  I agree with you Liz that their is a resemblence but very markedly between the three men, brother?  The older of the 2 girls (the one with her arm on the ladies knee) looks like the lady standing on the left.

We now need Maggott to come in with the vital details 

jane

[Maggott]

Thank you all very much- off to work now but will get names & dates to the site tomorrow.  But yes, they were from Horsham & Slinfold
Best  Maggott