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1851 Scotland Lookup Andrew COMMON
« on: Friday 18 May 07 03:00 BST (UK) »
Could someone with access to the 1851 Scotland Census please look this up for me.

Andrew COMMON born about 1793, and living with his wife Agnes (possibly Agnes CURL) in Dumfriesshire during the 1851 census.

I am hoping to confirm any relatives, but need to confirm both birthplaces before asking about 1841 census details, which should show some children with him.

I am currently thinking their children are:
Andrew 1815, Robert ? & Walter 1817.

Thank you
Chorlton -  Ashton Under Lyne, Cheshire/Lancashire
Common - Halifax, Yorkshire & Scotland <a href="http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,198195.0.htmll">Common One Name Interests</a>
Clegg - Yorkshire
Barber - Ashton Under Lyne, Cheshire/Lancashire
Hadfield - Ashton Under Lyne, Cheshire/Lancashire
Whitley - Yorkshire

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Re: 1851 Scotland Lookup Andrew COMMON
« Reply #1 on: Friday 18 May 07 03:09 BST (UK) »
Hi Chorlton

This is the family that you wanted :-

1851 Census Scotland Dumfriesshire Westerkirk
Parish Number 854 ED 1 Line 1 Page 13

COMMON
Andrew Head Marr 58 Farmer of 900 Acres (3 Men 1 Boy) 70 Arable, 830 Sheep Pasture born Castleton Roxburghshire
Agnes Wife Marr 50 born Applegarth Dumfriesshire
Agnes Dau Unmarr 19 Employed at Home born Westerkirk Dumfriesshire
Margaret Dau Unmarr 18 Employed at Home born Westerkirk Dumfriesshire
Richard Son Unmarr 16 Employed in Farm born Westerkirk Dumfriesshire
James Son Unmarr 14 Scholar born Westerkirk Dumfriesshire
Eliza Dau Unmarr 13 Scholar born Westerkirk Dumfriesshire
Janet Dau Unmarr 9 Scholar born Westerkirk Dumfriesshire
David IRVING Serv Unmarr 15 Farm Servant born Lockerby Dumfriesshire
Margaret JOHNSTONE Serv Unmarr 22 Dairy Maid born Lockerby Dumfriesshire
Eliza NICHOL Serv Unmarr 16 General Servant born Langholm Dumfriesshire
George RODGERS Serv Unmarr 23 Farm Servant born Lockerby Dumfriesshire
William RODGERS Serv Unmarr 23 Shepherd born Castleton Roxburghshire

Cheers
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Re: 1851 Scotland Lookup Andrew COMMON
« Reply #2 on: Friday 18 May 07 04:26 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that info, Karenlee.

It seems that it may the the wrong one, for me, after all.

The wifes age does not agree with the first born that I have of 16th Jan 1815.  That would make her only 14 at the time of sons birth.  Andrew, the father, would have been 22.


I've just checked my earlier info, and I have the Father and Mother being Andrew & Agnes Common, with the first child being Andrew Common born Jan 1815 in Roxburgh, and death at age 80 in qtr 1, 1896.

It appears there may be two Andrew Common's married to an Agnes in the area at about that time.

I may have the area wrong though, as this one may have stayed in Roxburgh ?

Unfortunately, I can't trace via the son, Andrew Common 1815, as he was married and living in England by 1841.

Thanks again for the fast reply.
Chorlton -  Ashton Under Lyne, Cheshire/Lancashire
Common - Halifax, Yorkshire & Scotland <a href="http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,198195.0.htmll">Common One Name Interests</a>
Clegg - Yorkshire
Barber - Ashton Under Lyne, Cheshire/Lancashire
Hadfield - Ashton Under Lyne, Cheshire/Lancashire
Whitley - Yorkshire

Any census information that I have included is Crown Copyright, as per: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/legal/copyright.htm

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Re: 1851 Scotland Lookup Andrew COMMON
« Reply #3 on: Friday 18 May 07 05:38 BST (UK) »
Hi
Just wondering if this is relevant or if you have this information from the Roxburgh: Melrose Parish Register.

The following are the children of Andrew Common, labourer, and Agnes Curle in Gattonside.
John, born 28 Jul 1808, baptised 25 Sep 1808.
Grisel, born 22 Nov 1810, baptised 03 Feb 1811.
Margaret, born 24/10/1812, baptised 27 Dec 1812.
Andrew, born 16 Jan 1815, baptised 20 Aug 1815.

Doug
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Re: 1851 Scotland Lookup Andrew COMMON
« Reply #4 on: Friday 18 May 07 05:43 BST (UK) »
Hi again
If my last message is relevant then it links with an 1841 census record for Agnes Common born 1786 married to an Andr. [sic] also born 1786. Living with them are another Agnes born 1820 [their daughter?] and Andr. Curle [father?] born 1756.

Hope this helps

Doug
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Re: 1851 Scotland Lookup Andrew COMMON
« Reply #5 on: Friday 18 May 07 05:46 BST (UK) »
Doug

That's great thanks, it sure looks like the family I am looking for.

The names are right, and the birth of Andrew, on 16 Jan 1815 is correct.

Did that register give the birth dates, and places, of the parents ?
Is the register online ?

Thanks again.
Chorlton -  Ashton Under Lyne, Cheshire/Lancashire
Common - Halifax, Yorkshire & Scotland <a href="http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,198195.0.htmll">Common One Name Interests</a>
Clegg - Yorkshire
Barber - Ashton Under Lyne, Cheshire/Lancashire
Hadfield - Ashton Under Lyne, Cheshire/Lancashire
Whitley - Yorkshire

Any census information that I have included is Crown Copyright, as per: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/legal/copyright.htm

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Re: 1851 Scotland Lookup Andrew COMMON
« Reply #6 on: Friday 18 May 07 05:55 BST (UK) »
Hi

That's all the information there was.

Just a suggestion re. the 1851 census there's an Andrew [born 1874 Hobkirk Roxburgh] a Farmer Of 405 Acres. Living with him are his brother Adam [born 1782 Farmer Hobkirk];
his sister[in-law?] born 1786 Hobkirk she's the housekeeper; and another Adam [his nephew] born 1825 Newcastleton Roxburg.

Will PM you about sources.

Doug
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Re: 1851 Scotland Lookup Andrew COMMON
« Reply #7 on: Friday 18 May 07 06:01 BST (UK) »
One more thing there's a marriage for Andrew on 17/1/1808 at Melrose. No details of the bride!
Smith / Tait /  Wade / Stabler [North Yorkshire / Durham]
Tunnicliffe / Dimmock [Staffordshire / Worcestershire]
Bradshaw [Leeds]
Threapleton [Pudsey]