Telfer, Davidson, Kerr, Johnston(e)

[Gadget]

1901 Longhill Cottage, St Mungo Dist 847 ED 2 page 8

James Telfer, hd, 42,  gardener's labourer
Agnes,sis, 49, Housekeeper
John, brother (?), 28, labourer
Jean, sister (?), 20, outdoor worker

birthplaces as before

Gadget

I confirmed your first post in my first post Joe 

The births that Joe has found are very likely the same family.  Here they are in 1851:

[Gadget]

Now we have the Hel(l)en Kerr, Torthowald and Susan Jardine Johnstone to trace.

I'll check in later and see what I can find that's not been found by then!

Gadget

[runningbear]

best i can do for helen is from the igi's

helen kerr born 9/5/1845 dryfesdale, daughter of william and margaret irvine.


Joe

[Gadget]

- Joe, she was born Torthorwald - see first post!

Gadget

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William Telfer and Hellen Kerr married, Lochmaben, 1864. Her parents were John Kerr, farmer and Agnes m.s. Johnstone.

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Thomas Telfer (son of William and Hellen) married Susan Johnston in November 1897 in Corniehill (?), Borgue. Her parents were George Johnstone, dairyman, and Isabella, m.s. Black.

Thomas was 21 and Susan was 24.

Gadget 

[runningbear]

i wil try aand rectify gadget, sorry

john kerr married agnes johnstone march 1823 lochmaben

children

janet: 28/8/1824 lochmaben
william: 1/3/1826 lochmaben
david: 1828 lochmaben
John: 1831 lochmaben
isabel: 1834 lochmaben
thomas: 1835 lochmaben
jean: 17/2/1839 torthorwald
agnes: 1840 lochmaben
agnes: 23/4/1843 torthorwald
mary: 1847 torthorwald

no sign of helen?

1841 census- raemoor, tortorwald
john-45-farmer
agnes-35
david-13
john-11
thomas-6
isabella-3
jean-2
agnes-1 month

also according to igi's john was born dalton 1796 and agnes was born lochmaben 1806.

hope this is the correct family

Joe

[Gadget]

Hi Joe 

When she married William in 1864 she was down as aged 21, which would make her born circa 1843. William is also down as 21. Maybe they just said that they were 'of full age' or whatever. There was no requirement of proof.

Could she be Agnes renamed or was there a birth between Agnes and Mary that's missing 

 I've not looked on the censuses and I'm off for a while now.

Gadget

[runningbear]

george johnstone married isabella black on the 6th december 1872 in new cumnock, ayr.

their daughter susan jardine johnstone was born on the 7th october 1873 in new cumnock, ayr.

Joe