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Looking for Elizabeth VEITCH abt.1834
« on: Monday 06 December 04 09:10 GMT (UK) »
Elizabeth Veitch was born about 1834 ? where ?
She came to Australia as an assisted immigrant on the Ticonderoga 1852  Elizabeth VEITCH  (18) Midlothian, domestic servant, Presbyterian, read & write
In 1853 she married James Edward King in Victoria Aust who was from Bathurst NSW and it was in NSW that they had their children.
Their marraige certificate states that Elizabeth Veitch parents were Robert Veitch and Jane(t) and her birth place was Rossland but I cannot find this place so it may have been a property name.James gave his birth place as Leith

Please help !!!!
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------Thankyou Robyn
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Re: Looking for Elizabeth VEITCH abt.1834
« Reply #1 on: Monday 06 December 04 09:30 GMT (UK) »
There is this on the IGI:

ELIZABETH VEITCH 
 Birth:  06 MAR 1830   
 Christening:  03 APR 1830   Balmerino, Fife, Scotland
Parents:
  Father:  ROBERT VEITCH  Family
  Mother:  JANET BOYTER     
 
Don't know if that helps ...

Jonathan
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Re: Looking for Elizabeth VEITCH abt.1834
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 07 December 04 02:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi Johathan

Thankyou very much for your reply

Do you know if a person immigrating would have to proof their age ? at the time of departure in that era.

It is very interesting because Elizabeth on the 17th Oct 1853 gave her age as 21yrs at marraige this is just the next year after she immigrated to Aust.
Elizabeth was travelling by herself.She had work in Victoria Aust prior to her marraige.

Is Leith close to Balmerino, Fife, Scotland ?

Robyn  :)
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Re: Looking for Elizabeth VEITCH abt.1834
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 07 December 04 08:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi Robyn
I'm not sure about the proof of age at all, but I would doubt it.  Perhaps someone else could help out on that one.

Here is a link so that you can check where the two towns are and compare, I don't think they are close though :

http://www.multimap.com/

I have an interest in your rellies story so will PM you about that too.

Regards
Jonathan
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Re: Looking for Elizabeth VEITCH abt.1834
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 07 December 04 11:55 GMT (UK) »
Rossland is  within Erskine, a parish in Renfrewshire
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/sct/RFW/Erskine/index.html
It is some distance from Balmerino (64 miles according to Parloc)

From my experience with Australian immigrants and or marriages, the age given is somewhat flexible and certainly in the 19th Century, no proof was required.

Leith is about 30 miles from Balmerino - Leith is close to Edinburgh (Midlothian) - across the Firth of Forth from Fife (Just adore those names - I stayed in Leith a couple of years ago & fell in love with the names!)
http://getamap.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/getamap/frames.htm?mapAction=gaz&gazName=pc&gazString=PA7+5AJ

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Re: Looking for Elizabeth VEITCH abt.1834
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 December 04 04:50 GMT (UK) »
Hello Robyn,

Elizabeth was lucky to survive that awful voyage on the fever ship 'Ticonderoga'!

One doesn't know whether "Midlothian" is meant to be her birthplace, or the place where she was living before she went to Liverpool to board the 'Ticonderoga'.  If the former, I wonder whether 'Rossland' might be a misspelling of the village of Roslin (Rosslin, Rosslyn) in Midlothian (a few miles S of Edinburgh)?

The Fife record which Jonathan found is tempting - but, before statutory registration, so many children were not recorded (or records didn't survive, or haven't been indexed) that I guess you really need some further proof if you are to tie her to the Balmerino Elizabeth with confidence.

Perhaps you'll need to wait until there are country-wide indexes for the 1841 and 1851 censuses of Scotland.  ScotlandsPeople has been promising these for quite some time and we have all been waiting on tenterhooks - but the date they were supposed to be available has been steadily disappearing into the distant future and now no estimated date for availability of these indexes is given on the SP site.

I see that the 'Ticonderoga' site at
http://ruzoz.customer.netspace.net.au/Ticonderoga.htm
mentions the name of someone researching, or descended from, Elizabeth - I expect you've been in touch with her.

Regards,

Judy