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1659 Irish Census
« on: Sunday 10 June 07 13:23 BST (UK) »
I have heard that the  1659 Irish census details or part of are available.  Do you know if that is correct and where the could be found?
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Re: 1659 Irish Census
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 10 June 07 13:49 BST (UK) »
Hi Sunseeker,

try putting 1659 Irish Census in a search engine.

apart from this (often)
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... not a true census, giving only the names of the titualodoes (those with title to land) and the total number of persons (English & Irish) resident in each townland. ...
you can also find various county data,.....

one link I found was
Census of 1659 - Donegal
http://members.aol.com/lochlan2/donegal9.htm

another: Longford
http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllog/longcen.htm Broken Link

and there are others  :)

Bob


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Re: 1659 Irish Census
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 10 June 07 14:01 BST (UK) »
Hiya sunseeker,

1659 'Pender's Census':
This was compiled by Sir William Petty who also was responsible for the Civil Survey. There are a number of problems in using the 1659 Census as a source of data. It was based on a poll tax so it is not a full ‘census’ of the population at the time. It only lists the number of adults paying tax ... ie it records the names of persons with title to land (tituladoes), the total numbers of English and Irish living in each townland and the principal Irish names in each barony. Five counties, Cavan, Galway, Mayo, Tyrone and Wicklow, are not covered. The work was edited by Seamus Pender and published in 1939. (See reference NLI I 6551 Dublin).

The University College, Cork ... Documents of Ireland contains an interesting article on the 1659 Census.

Christopher

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Re: 1659 Irish Census
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 10 June 07 14:03 BST (UK) »
According to Tracing Your Irish Ancestors by John Grenham Pender's 1659 Census (Co.Antrim) is in Dublin (National Library). Don't know if PRONI also has a copy but PRONI's website might give some details.
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Re: 1659 Irish Census
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 10 June 07 14:11 BST (UK) »
PRONI has the 1659 Census for Counties Antrim, Armagh, Fermanagh and Londonderry.
MIC means that the documents are on Microfilm.

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Re: 1659 Irish Census
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 10 June 07 14:27 BST (UK) »
I am moving this topic to Ireland - General

For the benefit of those who can't visit PRONI or any irish libraries,
please add any  online  sources here.
 
Thanks,
Bob
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Re: 1659 Irish Census
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 10 June 07 14:41 BST (UK) »
Co. Clare on the Clare County Library website
Co. Kerry
Co. Westmeath on the 'From Ireland' © Jane Lyons, Dublin, Ireland website.

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Re: 1659 Irish Census
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 10 June 07 23:06 BST (UK) »
According to Tracing Your Irish Ancestors by John Grenham Pender's 1659 Census (Co.Antrim) is in Dublin (National Library). Don't know if PRONI also has a copy but PRONI's website might give some details.

Hope you don't mind me asking, but what is PRONI

thanx

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Re: 1659 Irish Census
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 10 June 07 23:21 BST (UK) »
Hiya Lil,

Public Record Office, Northern Ireland. It's located at Balmoral Avenue, Belfast.

It's listed on RootsChat Topics: DICTIONARY of Genealogical Terms and Abbreviations.

Christopher