1841 census lookup for Barham

[helenna]

Could someone please look up the 1841 census for Horton Park, Barham.

Many thanks
Helenna

[Verna Mac]

What, in particular were you after?

[casalguidi]

Is this in relation to your Henry Graham MONTAGU Helenna - have you found another clue to his origins?

Casalguidi

[helenna]

Thankyou for reply and yes, I have just been in contact with another of my unknown relatives, also after Henry's origins ,and it seems that Henry had cousins by the name of Tassell living at Horton Park, nr Barham.  This is the first time we have been given the name of any other relatives and of course has to be followed up. I have found them on the 1881 census. John Tassell then being a retired farmer his daughter was named Lilla and one of Henry's children was named Lilla after her. The address on the census is Little Bridge Place, Bridge, Kent. His beginnings are a mystery to us all and of course we want to know. It seems we have all been brought up on the story of him coming from wealthy background. I know this can be a story that lots of people come up with. Believe me it has to have some truth in it. Do wonder if he was illegitimate.
Once again many thanks for your interest believe me its some story. 
Helenna

[helenna]

What, in particular were you after?

I am looking for a John Tassell who I am led to believe lived at Horton Park, Nr Barham in the 1800s.

Many thanks for replying
Helenna

[Barbara F]

Hello Helenna
Not an easy family to track as their name gets horribly mistranscribed.
The family is at Horton Park, Monks Horton in 1851 - I am still trying to find John in 1841.
On a later census I noticed that John and his wife Eliza have a son Montagu Henry Tassell registered in 1859.  I mention this as the name is similar to the one mentioned by Casalguidi.
Will have another search for John in 1841 and get back to you.
Barbara

[Barbara F]

Sorry Helenna but I cannot identify John in 1841.
I think he was already married. Free BMD has this

Marriages Dec 1838   
CHAMPION  Harriet    Elham  5 269   
EVENDEN  William     Elham  5 269   
STOKES  Eliza     Elham  5 269   
TASKELL  John     Elham  5 269   
Young  Susan     Elham  5 269   

I checked the marriage on the full indexes and on the Kent Registration site and the name there is John Tassell.

Strange that their first child was not born until 1843.

Family search has a submitted entry for John Tassell born about 1811 which may be correct as the death date of 1902 looks right. (see http://www.familysearch.org/).  The Free BMD entry is as follows
Deaths Sep 1902   
Tassell  John  91  Bridge  2a 473

The 1851 census entry is as follows - sorry but the image is very poor and hard to read
Horton Park, Monks Horton
John Tassell Head Mar 40 Farmer 394? acres employing labour?b Kent Wye
Eliza Wife Mar 37 b Kent Hythe
Lilla Dau 8 b Kent Monks Norton
Eliza Dau 6 b Kent Monks Norton
Theodore Son 3 b Kent Monks Norton
James Son 9 months b Kent Monks Norton
Susanna Mount Servant 16 House Servant b Kent Newington

An interesting point is that family search indicates that John's father was James Tassell and his mother  Mary Cook -  John's son Theodore had the middle name of Cook.

Not sure whether this is going to help you at all.

Barbara

[helenna]

Thankyou so much for the results you have posted to me. This all looks so promising.
Have just been given the information that Henry Grahame Montagu had cousins by the name of Tassell at Horton Park -somewhere nr Barham- Is Horton Park @ Monks Norton? Sorry am not familiar with this area.How could I find  the maiden name of Eliza Tassell?? As it could be her family that are connected to Henry.
That was interesting the name of child registered in 1859. Couldnt be my Henry as he served in the Crimean,but most definately could be a relative.Have also been told that Henry attended Bishops Grammer School, would you know if the records of the pupils still exist? Also the letter stated that Henry was born 1832-1835. So many contradictions as this doesnt correspond with the date of his birth he puts on all documents, 1839.
I would be most grateful for any other information you may find.
Helenna

[casalguidi]

Hi Helenna

Horton Park is at Monks Horton (note the H) - the latter a small rural village (next to Stowting) in Kent.  Monks Horton is about 9 miles from Barham (passing through the villages of Lyminge and Elham).  See the following for the 1901 census returns of Monks Horton:

http://members.lycos.co.uk/shrubsole/census_returns_for_the_parish_of_monks_horton.htm

The only sure way to confirm the maiden name of John TASSELL's wife would be to purchase a birth certificate for one of their children.  However, it does look likely that they are the John TASSELL and Eliza STOKES who married at Hythe http://extranet3.kent.gov.uk/sp/rois/home.html (the ref. is that for marriages at Hythe parish church).  There are films of the Hythe marriage registers at Hythe Library but they don't have a printer for their reader or at least they didn't the last time I was there http://kent.gov.uk/LibrariespublicUI/

STOKES is a well known "Hythe" name.

Bishop's Grammar School - any idea where that would be?

Casalguidi