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Re: 1901 census look up please - Inverness
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 01 February 11 11:24 GMT (UK) »
Found the marriage entry now on IGI. You should be able to view the marriage certificate image on Scotlands People. Scottish marriage certs are very informative and should include her parents' names including mother's maiden name to let you work back to her family. This is how the entry will be indexed on Scotlands People (as showing on IGI):

John J. HORTON and Kate Hortond MACKENZIE Marriage on 22 Sept. 1875 in Edinburgh.

There is also a possible birth entry for John Joshua Horton on 14 Feb 1853 in Kingswinford and St Mary's Chapelry, Stafford, England. Parents showing as Joshua and Phoebe Elizabeth. http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=home

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Re: 1901 census look up please - Inverness
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 01 February 11 11:59 GMT (UK) »
Possible census entry for Catherine from 1861, corresponding with her birth year and also birth location indicated by husband John:

Colin Archd Mackenzie 33, minister Scots Church b. Scotland
Catherine C Mackenzie 5 b. Tynemouth, Northumberland
Sarah F Sudder 21, servant

Address: 5 North Place, Tynemouth, Northumberland
RG9, Piece 3840, Folio 29, Page 54

Trying to find Catherine/Kate in later censuses brings up this likely entry for 1871. Father Colin is showing as John on this transcript - not sure why. The younger children's birth registrations on IGI show parents as Colin Archibald MacKenzie and Mary Gilfillan and these children match what is on this 1871 census entry:

John A Mackenzie 43, Minister Govan Free Church, b. Edinburgh
Mary Mackenzie 38 b. Edinburgh
Kate C Mackenzie 15, b. England
Jessie F Mackenzie 13, b. England
Colin A Mackenzie 4 b. England
Agnes A Mackenzie 6 b. Govan
Alfred Mackenzie 4 b. Govan
William L Mackenzie 3 b. Govan
Christina T K Mackenzie 8 months b. Govan
Wilhamina Campbell 22, servant
Jane Beatie 19, servant

Address:    Free Church Manse, Govan

Parents look to have married in 1851. There is this entry showing on IGI:

Mary GILFILLAN (father Walter GILFILLAN) married Archibald Colin MACKENZIE on 17 April 1851 in Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh. Mother Mary and sister Jessie F. look to have been away from home for the 1861 census as they didn't show on that entry, just Catherine and father.

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Re: 1901 census look up please - Inverness
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 01 February 11 12:17 GMT (UK) »
Maureen, there is a little bit more on line on the family, principally because of father Colin being a minister and also younger brother Colin who followed father's profession in later years and also became a church minister.

COLIN ARCHIBALD MACKENZIE,
1895 born North Shields, 17th Jan. 1860,
son of Colin Archibald M., min.
of Scots Church, North Shields, after
wards of Govan U.F. Church, and Mary
Gilfillan ; educated at Academy and Univ.
of Glasgow ; licen. by Presb. of Glasgow in
1888; assistant at Broughton, Lamington


www.archive.org/stream/fastiecclesiasco03scotuoft/fastiecclesiasco03scotuoft_djvu.txt

First step though is to verify parents details from that 1875 marriage entry we have found which will then let you be certain we have the right family for both Catherine and husband John.

Monica  :)
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Re: 1901 census look up please - Inverness
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 01 February 11 19:33 GMT (UK) »
Dear Monica,
Wow ! Thank you so much for your information and I appreciate your time and effort involved. I think you are on the right track as my grandmother - Catherine's daughter was named Mary Gilfillan Horton! We always wondered where the Gilfillan came from. They seemed to have a custom of using the maiden surname of the mother as a second name for the children.
Kind Regards,
Maureen

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Re: 1901 census look up please - Inverness
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 01 February 11 19:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi Maureen

That is great that you have a reference to Catherine's mother's maiden name of Gilfillan. Scottish naming pattern, if used, would normally have first born daughter being called after her  maternal grandmother.

I did find earlier a likely birth entry for Catherine from www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

2nd Qrt of 1855, Catherine Campbell MacKenzie - Tynemouth, Northumberland. Ref. Vol. 10b. pg. 132

Catherine's been on my mind this afternoon  :-\ From her early years as the daughter of a Church of Scotland Minister, to such a sad end to her life at the age of 34.

Let me know if you need help with anything further  :)
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Re: 1901 census look up please - Inverness
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 01 February 11 20:15 GMT (UK) »
Yes Monica, from reading the inquest we often wondered what the situation was between Catherine and John Horton to end like it did. The way John referred to 'the child' that was with Catherine (-my grandmother) it almost gave you the impression she was not his. She obviously was not living with him at the time of her death and possibly living with her oldest son in Greymouth. They were hard times and she would have been away from her family in Scotland so who knows what support she would have had.Makes you want to reach back down through the ages and put your arms around her.
Thank you once again
Maureen