Davies/Jones marriage. St Peter...COMPLETED

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I can't find the marriage on LDS.

Carmarthen. St Peter in 1851/1852..  first child born 1852

David Davies c1833 a Mariner...father Thomas Davies
Eliza Jones c1830...sorry no fathers name.

I would appreciate any help but I do know with these names it's difficult....I have already ordered the wrong certificate once.

Ambers

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Son David was born 1856 according to the 61 and 71 censusnot 1852
Eliza 1861 census Elizabeth 1871 census


This sounds very  promising

1856 Carmarthen Carmarthenshire/Dyfed/Pembrokeshire March quarter 11a 709
Elizabeth Jones
David Davies

Elizabeth Jones 1853 sept quarter 11a 827 Carmarthen Carmarthenshire/Dyfed/Pembrokeshire
same page
David Davies
James Davies
Deborah Thomas



1861 RG9/4140 folio 56 page 34 St David,St Peter Carmarthenshire


Dame Street
David Jones age 29 seaman(merchant Service) born carmarthen
Eliza age 29
David son age 5
Celina Jane dau age 1

1871 Rg10/5497 folio 71 page 22 Carmarthen Carmarthenshire

St Peter Street
Elizabeth Davies age 39 shopkeeper widow Carmarthen all Davies born Carmarthen

David son age 15 Cooper
Selina dau age 10
Mary dau age 8
John son age 6
Margaret dau age 3
Eliza Ann dau age 1
Edith E dau age 4 months
Elizabeth H Rees boarder dressmaker

Pam

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Thank for taking the trouble to find all that information Pam, it's does look like the correct marriage.

But the problem is:
The child I am looking for  Thomas Jones Davies b1852, the details are taken from his marriage cert in 1874....his father stated as David Davies a Mariner (deceased).
The only couple that fit are the ones you found.

On the 1861 census RG9 9/4/39 F47 P18, he is with his Grandmother Elizabeth  Jones b1806, after this he is a lodger  with various people until he marries my ggrandmother Mary Davies in 1874.
Elizabeth Jones b1806 appears to be the mother of Eliza Jones b1830, who then married David Davies in 1856.

Leads me to think they weren't married when Thomas Jones Davies was born or he gave his fathers name as David Davies because she married a David Davies later on.

I think I will ask some kind person to do a look up of the Parish Record for his birth.

Regards Ambers

[ambers]

To up-date information for anyone interested;

Birth certificate received proves that:

Thomas Jones Davies b1852 St Peter Street, Carmarthen was the son of David Davies (Mariner) & Eliza Jones.

That narrows down their marriage date for me.

Ambers
 

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Hello
1851 sept quarter Carmarthen Carmarthenshire/Dyfed/Pembrokeshire 26  711

 David Davies
David Griffiths
Thomas Griffiths
David Jones

Eliza Jones
Mary Owens
Mary Rees
Elizabeth George

1852 Carmarthen Carmartheshire/Dyfed/Pembrokeshire 11a 851 June quarter

David Davies
David Jones


Eliza Jones

Esther Joseph  written twice
Esther Joseph

Pam

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Many thanks Pam,

That was lucky, only two to choose from with names like Davies and Jones.

Thanks again....Ambers