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1881 Earl st., Longsight/Gorton
« on: Monday 16 July 07 12:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Folks,

I have the 1881 census for James CUNDIFFE, wife Lavina & family (RG 11/3906/78) Civil parish is Longsight Gorton, town Longsight, urban district Gorton, ecclesiastical parish St. Clement.  The address is 83 Earl Street.

Could someone please identify where this particular Earl Steet is on one of today's maps?

Thanks

Mike
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Re: 1881 Earl st., Longsight/Gorton
« Reply #1 on: Monday 16 July 07 13:07 BST (UK) »
hi

if you multimap Earl st , it comes up as Denton manchester 34, but when u see the actual image it shows it nr Hyde Road area off Gorton, hopefully thats the right one

heres the actual link but if it doesnt open try multimap.com

http://www.multimap.com/maps/?t=r#t=r&map=53.46188,-2.15683|14|4&route=GB,-2.14652:53.45714;-2.17891:53.45851,0|earl%20st%20:gorton|Earl%20Street,%20DENTON%20(MANCHESTER),%20M34:Gorton,%20Manchester,%20M18%207

bw

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Re: 1881 Earl st., Longsight/Gorton
« Reply #2 on: Monday 16 July 07 13:20 BST (UK) »
Thanks Jo,

I found that one too, but was unsure it being the right one.  Further digging suggests you may be right.  James was an "operative brewer".  And I've just found a 1950 memory on the Internet that suggests that number 83 was The Star Pub.

The jig saw is coming together.   8)

Thanks again

Mike
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Re: 1881 Earl st., Longsight/Gorton
« Reply #3 on: Monday 16 July 07 15:07 BST (UK) »
Actually Folks the jigsaw as just fell on the floor.   :-[

Using the online 1881 and then going back through scores of households until I can find a street that is there today, Earl Street is close to Ducie Street which is near the top of Plymouth Grove.  Possibly one to two hundred yards down from the National Blood Service on the corner of Upper Brook Street and Plymouth Grove.

Thank you for trying

Mike
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Re: 1881 Earl st., Longsight/Gorton
« Reply #4 on: Monday 16 July 07 16:12 BST (UK) »
Hi Mike

wouldnt that be Chorlton on medlock if its near plymouth grove ?

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Re: 1881 Earl st., Longsight/Gorton
« Reply #5 on: Monday 16 July 07 18:03 BST (UK) »
Jo,

The short answer is yes!  Yet by doing "Previous Household" I came across James' son Frederick's future in-laws, the HIGGINBOTHAMs in Ducie Street and then a few streets later, Dryden Street, which if it's the right one, is still there.  Yet it's about 8 miles as the crow flies from the current Earl Street, just off  the A57 Manchester Road you found this morning.

Odd.

As I don't know the registrar's boundaries I will have to dig a bit deeper.

Mike
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 MIL(L)WARD, COTTERIL, CLULEE, IZOD, HASSALL, TODD, STRATTON, JAKEMAN, JENNINGS, MOLE, ALLCOCK PINFIELD north Worcestershire
WATERS, Thurzo, Sutherland> Bishopswearmouth, Durham
GARDNER, Solihull;
HUMPHRIES & HUMPHREYS, Meifod, Montgomeryshire>Bilston, STS> Manchester & Texas + Kansas, USA
JAKENS, BIRD, CRAPPER Bury, HIGGINBOTHAM, HORRIDGE, CUNDIFF, Lancs
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Re: 1881 Earl st., Longsight/Gorton
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 17 July 07 11:03 BST (UK) »
Hi Folks,

I have the 1881 census for James CUNDIFFE, wife Lavina & family (RG 11/3906/78) Civil parish is Longsight Gorton, town Longsight, urban district Gorton, ecclesiastical parish St. Clement.  The address is 83 Earl Street.

Could someone please identify where this particular Earl Steet is on one of today's maps?

Thanks

Mike
the earl st that you are looking for,comes under the voting district of ardwick,nowadays some folks call it west gorton,mack
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Re: 1881 Earl st., Longsight/Gorton
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 26 July 07 15:27 BST (UK) »

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Re: 1881 Earl st., Longsight/Gorton
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 26 July 07 15:35 BST (UK) »
It looks as if it were still a pub back in 1929 where this is taken from

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