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« on: Monday 16 July 07 14:42 BST (UK) »
hi,
can anyone please tell me if they have ever heard of a ship called hms james,
one of my family was born on the hms james ship ,i belive it was coming from usa to england in 1814,but i cant find no mention of it anywhere,.
he was named james atlantic greaves, so he was named after the ship he was born on,his father was called william greaves and his mother was catherine,
any help would be welcome
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Re: hms james
« Reply #1 on: Monday 16 July 07 14:47 BST (UK) »
have you tried the http://www.port.nmm.ac.uk/research/b7.html site and corresponding with the NMM ?
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Re: hms james
« Reply #2 on: Monday 16 July 07 15:07 BST (UK) »
hi
thank you for your reply, i will have a look at this
much appreciated
thank you
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Re: hms james
« Reply #3 on: Monday 16 July 07 17:21 BST (UK) »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demi-cannon - mentions the existence of an HMS James, although it seems to have been a little earlier (there are some indications of the HMS James on the NA site which suggests a ship of this name did exist, but again, they're all too early for yours).  There was also an HMS Atlantic around at various times.

What was his father's occupation, do you know? I'd expect him to be linked to the military somehow or other.
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Re: hms james
« Reply #4 on: Monday 16 July 07 18:54 BST (UK) »
hi,
thank you for trying to help
his father ,s occupation was a joiner,
and that is about all i know of him,
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patricia

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« Reply #5 on: Monday 16 July 07 19:21 BST (UK) »
It's quite possible that as a joiner he worked in connection with the navy, for example working at the Naval Dockyards.  I see there was a family connection to Yorkshire, as James Atlantic Greaves was christened there and is living in Sheffield in 1861; are these possibly the parents in 1841?

HO 107/1329/1 49/11
Nursery Lane, Sheffield
William Greaves, 50, b. in county, joiner
Catherine, 40, born Ireland
Martha, 14, b. in county
Owen, 12, b. in county


Do you have a copy of the original christening of James Atlantic Greaves and is his father's occupation listed there? Or is the occupation only taken from the marriage certificate?
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Re: hms james
« Reply #6 on: Monday 16 July 07 19:30 BST (UK) »
hi,
yes thats the right family in 1841
and no i dont have the original copy of his christining, i found that on familysearch,
do you think i would beable to get his christening, and if so do you know where i could get it,
i am in sheffield yorkshire,
again thank you so much for your help
patricia,

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« Reply #7 on: Monday 16 July 07 20:16 BST (UK) »
http://www.doncaster.gov.uk/Services/Archives.asp - if you could get to Doncaster Archives, they should definitely have it.   They also point out:

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From 1813 (as a result of Rose's Act of the previous year), baptism and burial registers were standardised. Baptism entries give the names of the parents, place of residence (often at first only the place rather than the address) and the father's occupation.

Sheffield archives might also have some extra information on the family, you should check it out sometime.
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« Reply #8 on: Monday 16 July 07 20:32 BST (UK) »
thank you ,
i will have a go at getting it,
i appreciate all your help
thank you once again
patricia,