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USA births 1867,69,78
« on: Monday 06 August 07 02:45 BST (UK) »
I am trying to get hold of a birth certificate to find out the mother's maiden name.  All the information I have is from the 1880 Boston Massachussetts census:
parents - William and Elizabeth Cordner
daughter Mary born 1867 Pennsylvania
daughter Kathleen born 1869 Michigan
daughter Ethel born 1878 Massachussetts

Can anyone advise me how to proceed.  I have looked through the "useful links" section but can't find anything to help.

Philip
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Re: USA births 1867,69,78
« Reply #1 on: Monday 06 August 07 12:01 BST (UK) »
Had a quick look for Michigan birth as that might be the easiest. Good news is that State registration of births started 1867. However, some pre-1906 births not filed with State but may be available from County Clerk.
Any idea where in Michigan they lived? Where they there in 1870 census?
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« Reply #2 on: Monday 06 August 07 13:18 BST (UK) »
Many thanks for the reply. Unfortunately, the only information I have is as quoted from the 1880 census - I have not found the family on any other census or tracked down any registered births.

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Re: USA births 1867,69,78
« Reply #3 on: Monday 06 August 07 13:32 BST (UK) »
Bit of a puzzle this one. Checked Mass. Vital records 1841-1910 and no Cordner births (possibly under another spelling?) and only a few deaths but index does not list names of parents.
Went to 1880 census where you located the family in Boston and LDS site has Mary born c1867 in LA (Louisiana not Pennsylvania)- have you seen PA somewhere else?
There are also lots of other chuldren listed. Do you have any idea where in Canada they would have been living when Alice was born?
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Re: USA births 1867,69,78
« Reply #4 on: Monday 06 August 07 13:52 BST (UK) »
1891 Census- England (Middlesex): Kathleen Cordner born c1869 U.S.

1900 Census- New York: Auckland B. Cordner born c1862 Ireland

Ellis Island- Auckland B. Cordner:
1895 (age 32) publisher on "Lucania"
1903 (age 43y 9m), Insurance, U.S. citizen "Campania" with wife Bernice
1904 (age 42) Insurance manager "Etruria" with wife Bernice
1909 (age 49) on "Lucania"

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« Reply #5 on: Monday 06 August 07 15:19 BST (UK) »
Whoops - I had a "mad moment" and typed Pennsylvania instead of Louisiana for Mary's birthplace.  A family myth put her birth in Luzern, Pennsylvania but there is no proof of this.

Many thanks for the information on Auckland.  This family moved about so much that it's difficult to pin them down.  Without a birth certificate I can't track mother Elizabeth's maiden name.

Mary was my great grandmother - she married John Henry James and returned settled in England.

Children not born in USA were Edwin (c1861 England), Auckland (c1863 Ireland), Alice (c1865 Canada).  I can't find Edwin on FreeBMD and I wouldn't know where to begin hunting in Ireland or Canada.

This is my second most troublesome brick wall and I would love to crack it open!

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Re: USA births 1867,69,78
« Reply #6 on: Monday 06 August 07 15:54 BST (UK) »
Checked some Louisiana records for Mary's birth but date is a bit early.
What about William & Elizabeth's marriage? that should give her maiden name.
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« Reply #7 on: Monday 06 August 07 17:09 BST (UK) »
I don't know where, when or if William and Elizabeth were married, so I can't track Elizabeth's maiden name that way.

A fellow Rootschatter has found on the 1891 England census:
Alice Cordner born c1865 Montreal, Canada
Kathleen Cordner born c1869 St Louis USA
Pauline Cordner born c1876 Boston, USA

This gives me some hope that by knowing the birth cities I have a better chance of finding the births registered.

The hunt goes on!
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Re: USA births 1867,69,78
« Reply #8 on: Monday 06 August 07 18:18 BST (UK) »
Now I see the problem. I checked Michigan for Kathleen's birth (and found nothing) but St. Louis is probably the one in Missouri! They certainly moved around!!!
And who is Pauline born c1876 Boston (1891 census)? What happened to Ethel born c1878 Mass. (1880 Census)?
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