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1891 census lookup request
« on: Thursday 16 December 04 17:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi ,
can anyone find these 2 people in the 1891 census of Northumberland for me.I've been told that they might be in a place called Prestwick(I have absolutely no idea where it is ,I just know it's not the Ayrshire one apparently).

John BRUNNER
Alice BRUNNER-wife-born circa 1874-Elston,Nottinghamshire.

Many thanks to anyone who can help me.
Trisha.
Nottinghamshire: Pacey Hoe Hubbard Taylor,Plumber,Ownsworth,Harvey
Lincolnshire: Pacey Ragsdell Trafford Skelton Norton Lincoln Chester Smith Gilbert Palmer Rawding Baggerley Pask Welch Wright Green Clarke Dawson Grey Johnson Burton Wright Scargall Day.
Bedfordshire: Timms Virgin Hallsworth Kirby Osborn Basset Nixson Harding Odell Clark Thompson.
Northamptonshire: Ragsdell Waller Coales Breem Peak Wallet. Drake.
Norfolk: Palmer Howard Harpely Codling Mark

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Re: 1891 census lookup request
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 16 December 04 17:50 GMT (UK) »
Prestwick is near Morpeth.
I tried for these two but found only a John born Baden, Gemany age 21, with an Alice age 21.
I looked on marriages and found John Brunner Mar 1891 St. Olaves Southwark and his bride [choice of two] could be Alice Elizabeth Laming.
I searched for her birth and found two but one was born in Southwark in 1870 and that seems to be a match. The other would have been younger and born in Lincolnshire but not at Elston.
I hope someone else can do better.
Southern or Southan [Hereford , Monmouthshire & Glos], Jenkins, Meredith and Morgan [Monmouthshire and Glos.], Murrill, Damary, Damry, Ray, Lawrence [all Middx. & London], Nethway from Kenn or Yatton. Also Riley and Lyons in South Africa and Riley from St. Helena.
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Re: 1891 census lookup request
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 16 December 04 18:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
thanks for looking.
Alice's maiden name was PACEY  btw.
Trisha :)
Nottinghamshire: Pacey Hoe Hubbard Taylor,Plumber,Ownsworth,Harvey
Lincolnshire: Pacey Ragsdell Trafford Skelton Norton Lincoln Chester Smith Gilbert Palmer Rawding Baggerley Pask Welch Wright Green Clarke Dawson Grey Johnson Burton Wright Scargall Day.
Bedfordshire: Timms Virgin Hallsworth Kirby Osborn Basset Nixson Harding Odell Clark Thompson.
Northamptonshire: Ragsdell Waller Coales Breem Peak Wallet. Drake.
Norfolk: Palmer Howard Harpely Codling Mark

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Re: 1891 census lookup request
« Reply #3 on: Friday 17 December 04 10:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi Trish

There's a Prestwich in Lancashire, if that's any help.

Genni
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Re: 1891 census lookup request
« Reply #4 on: Friday 17 December 04 11:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi Genni,
thanks,it does help a lot.To be truthful trying to find this pair is making me tear my hair out-lol.They seem to have vanished into thin air.
Trisha :)
Nottinghamshire: Pacey Hoe Hubbard Taylor,Plumber,Ownsworth,Harvey
Lincolnshire: Pacey Ragsdell Trafford Skelton Norton Lincoln Chester Smith Gilbert Palmer Rawding Baggerley Pask Welch Wright Green Clarke Dawson Grey Johnson Burton Wright Scargall Day.
Bedfordshire: Timms Virgin Hallsworth Kirby Osborn Basset Nixson Harding Odell Clark Thompson.
Northamptonshire: Ragsdell Waller Coales Breem Peak Wallet. Drake.
Norfolk: Palmer Howard Harpely Codling Mark

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Re: 1891 census lookup request
« Reply #5 on: Friday 17 December 04 23:24 GMT (UK) »
Tut, tut and another tut. Armed with the vital information that she was Alice Pacey I looked for her marriage. I found several but one that stuck was married Mar 1894 at Prestwick, Lancashire Vol 8d Page 488. And who do you think her groom was? John Brammer!
So, they could not be found together in 1891 because they were not married and, secondly, because he may have been Brammer and not Brunner.  You should buy that certificate and find out if it is correct or a mistranscription. End of tutting :D
Southern or Southan [Hereford , Monmouthshire & Glos], Jenkins, Meredith and Morgan [Monmouthshire and Glos.], Murrill, Damary, Damry, Ray, Lawrence [all Middx. & London], Nethway from Kenn or Yatton. Also Riley and Lyons in South Africa and Riley from St. Helena.
Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: 1891 census lookup request
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 18 December 04 14:28 GMT (UK) »
Today I looked for the couple on the 1901 census and what I found confirms the Brammer angle:
Bridge Street, Sandiacre, Derbyshire
John 33 Labourer b. Wellingjore [?] Lincs
Alice 31 b. Elston
Iris 4 Basford, Notts
John 1 Basford Notts
Sarah 3 mo. Sandiacre
John Wells Labourer, Boarder

Family had moved around a lot since their marriage in Prestwick.
 ;D
Southern or Southan [Hereford , Monmouthshire & Glos], Jenkins, Meredith and Morgan [Monmouthshire and Glos.], Murrill, Damary, Damry, Ray, Lawrence [all Middx. & London], Nethway from Kenn or Yatton. Also Riley and Lyons in South Africa and Riley from St. Helena.
Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: 1891 census lookup request
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 18 December 04 22:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi Hackstaple,
you're brilliant!
I've been trying to find this couple for ages and you've done it plus lots of little Brammers as well.
Many,Many,Many thanks.
Lots of christmas wishes to you,
Trisha :)
Nottinghamshire: Pacey Hoe Hubbard Taylor,Plumber,Ownsworth,Harvey
Lincolnshire: Pacey Ragsdell Trafford Skelton Norton Lincoln Chester Smith Gilbert Palmer Rawding Baggerley Pask Welch Wright Green Clarke Dawson Grey Johnson Burton Wright Scargall Day.
Bedfordshire: Timms Virgin Hallsworth Kirby Osborn Basset Nixson Harding Odell Clark Thompson.
Northamptonshire: Ragsdell Waller Coales Breem Peak Wallet. Drake.
Norfolk: Palmer Howard Harpely Codling Mark

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Re: 1891 census lookup request
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 18 December 04 22:45 GMT (UK) »
 ;D ;D ;D
Southern or Southan [Hereford , Monmouthshire & Glos], Jenkins, Meredith and Morgan [Monmouthshire and Glos.], Murrill, Damary, Damry, Ray, Lawrence [all Middx. & London], Nethway from Kenn or Yatton. Also Riley and Lyons in South Africa and Riley from St. Helena.
Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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