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Where to begin ????
« on: Saturday 25 August 07 22:54 BST (UK) »
Hi Everybody,

I am new to researching my family in Co. Armagh  I do not have a clue where to start with very little nformation !!!!

All I know if that my Great Grandfather James Woods was born in Bessbrook, Co Armagh abt 1864/5.

He married Catherine Rice from Downpatrick Co Down, and by 1894 they are living in New York.  (But they would return to Ireland)

Please can anyone offer advise on where I should begin with this ?


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Re: Where to begin ????
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 25 August 07 23:18 BST (UK) »
Do you know where they were married? If in Ireland the marriage certificate should list names of both fathers (but not mothers), etc.
Do you know when they went to U.S.? Passenger lists might give details of nearest relative in Ireland and person to whom they were going to in U.S.
U.S. Census records- if in U.S. (1900, 1910, etc.) there might be details of when they came to U.S., etc.

Civil registration in Ireland began 1864 (Protestant marriages from 1845) but birth registration (and I think death) was not compulsory until 1870 so there might not be a birth record for James and possibly Catherine.
Church records, if they still exist, may hold information but first you have to find where the family lived (just the county is usually not enough- need parish and preferably townland) and check to local church of whatever their religion.

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Re: Where to begin ????
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 26 August 07 16:56 BST (UK) »
this is the only rice/ woods marriage i could find, need more info. on parents to look for births. found to many  births  that could be them.


JAMES WOODS TO ANNIE RICE 12-10-1890 @ MEIGH R.C. CHURCH. KILLEVY, NEWRY, CO. ARMAGH.

she could have been christened ann catherine or catherine ann.


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Re: Where to begin ????
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 26 August 07 20:08 BST (UK) »
Arent you doing well with the existing replies.
I went starting with Ros Davies Co Down website  freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/R/Rice.htm and found nothing of exact interest, but noted for later
Arthur RICE . Saintfield husband of Agnes Crawford; father of Catherine b. 16 Aug 1869 CR

Ok so New York try castlegarden.org there are 50 James Wood, and 77 James Woods all travelling from Ireland. There are 4 Catharine Rice,   38 Catherine Rice, 4 Catharine Rice,   67 Catherine Woods all travelling from Ireland

so see if any match between 1868 and  1894
Catherine Woods Servant, Gentleman's Servant 16 F 26 Sep 1872 Ireland Australia
Catherine Woods Spinster 18 F 6 May 1891 Ireland City Of Baltimore
Catherine Woods Servant, Gentleman's Servant 18 F 17 May 1882 Ireland Furnessia
Catherine Woods Servant, Gentleman's Servant 18 F 31 May 1882 Ireland Anchoria
Catherine Woods Unknown 21 F 16 Oct 1883 Ireland Bolivia
Catherine Woods Servant, Gentleman's Servant 26 F 1 May 1885 Ireland City Of Rome
ie I was trying to find if they had married in ireland etc. I didnít find a match among the James Woods ie for the same voyage, but I was rushing and donít have the time to check the spelling James Wood in simliar voyages

When I use www.familysearch.com I know that Down means the parish of Down ie inc Downpatrick, suggestive possibilities exist eg
CATHERINE RICE
 Birth:  16 AUG 1869   , Down, Ireland
Parents:
  Father:  ARTHUR RICE  Family
  Mother:  AGNES CRAWFORD 

CATHERINE RICE
 Birth:  20 JUL 1870   , Down, Ireland
Parents:
  Father:  JOHN RICE  Family
  Mother:  ELIZA MORROW 

CATHARINE RICE
 Birth:  23 JUL 1871   , Down, Ireland
Parents:
  Father:  JOHN RICE  Family
  Mother:  ALICE SAVAGE

 CATHARINE RICE
 Birth:  28 DEC 1871   , Down, Ireland
Parents:
  Father:  DANIEL RICE  Family
  Mother:  ELIZA SHIELDS 


Staying on familysearch, a quick look at James Woods in Irelands IGI entries produces
48. James Alexander Woods - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 08 JUN 1876 , Armagh, Ireland
 49. JACOB WOODS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 08 AUG 1869 , Armagh, Ireland
 50. JAMES WOODS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 15 AUG 1864 0051, Keady, Armagh, Ireland 
 51. JAMES WOODS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 22 JUN 1866 0055, Keady, Armagh, Ireland
 52. JAMES WOODS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 03 NOV 1866 0073, Rich Hill, Armagh, Ireland
 53. JAMES WOODS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 20 JUL 1864 0052, Tynan, Armagh, Ireland
 54. JAMES WOODS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 12 FEB 1866 0042, Armagh, Armagh, Ireland
 55. James Woods - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 20 JAN 1878 , Armagh, Ireland
 56. JAMES WOODS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 27 JUN 1868 , Armagh, Ireland
  57. JAMES WOODS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 28 JUN 1871 , Armagh, Ireland
 58. JAMES WOODS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 17 JAN 1863 0517, Lurgan, Armagh, Ireland
 59. JAMES WOODS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 03 APR 1863 Reg Office, Lurgan, Armagh, Ireland
 60. JAMES WOODS - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Marriage: 20 NOV 1845 0218,Kilmore, , Armagh, Ireland
 

While on the same results I checked one or two entries with the USA entries and New York connections eg
 Thomas WOODS   Self   M   Male   W   52   IRE   Packer   IRE   IRE 
 Terssa WOODS   Wife   M   Female   W   49   IRE   House Keeper   IRE   IRE 
 James WOODS   Son   S   Male   W   27   IRE   Packer   IRE   IRE 
 George WOODS   Son   S   Male   W   22   GA   Clerk   IRE   IRE 
 Edward WOODS   Son   S   Male   W   12   NY      IRE   IRE 
 Charles WOODS   Son   S   Male   W   10   NY      IRE   IRE 
Source Information:
  Census Place New York, New York (Manhattan), New York City-Greater, New York
So thatís all I can offer to keep you searching, if you know more, please always  tell people offering free help. There are lots more irish websites still to explore.  Good luck, Jim
 
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Re: Where to begin ????
« Reply #4 on: Monday 27 August 07 19:20 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much Everybody for your help.. and for searching for me.... it is much appreciated !!!  I know it is hard with so little information so it is much appreciated.

In the last couple of days, I managed to get hold of my Grandmothers Birth Cert from NY with help from my cousin.

Name Margaret Woods
Born 1894
Father James Woods (age 29 years)
Mother Kate Woods (nee Rice age 26 years)
Address, West Houston Street

So now I have approximate ages for her parents.  I do not know if they were married in NY or Ireland but my best guess is IRELAND.

I also know that they returned to Ireland, to Dundalk, when my Grandmother was a small child .. probably about 2 or 3.

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Re: Where to begin ????
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 20 April 08 19:49 BST (UK) »
Hello BeeMack,

If your grandmother's family stayed in Dundalk for several years it might be an idea to post a message on the Co. Louth board www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,70.0.html

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Re: Where to begin ????
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 07 February 18 12:46 GMT (UK) »
BeeMack, Daniel Rice who married m Elizabeth Shields was from Newtownards, Down, and his father was John. This couple settled in  Birkenhead, Cheshire, England, but not before giving birth to their first two children Hugh 1869 and Catherine 1872.

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Re: Where to begin ????
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 07 February 18 14:24 GMT (UK) »
An old topic (and BeeMack hasn't been online for a while) but lots of new Irish resources online. Going back to James Woods & Catherine Rice-

Daughter Margaret born 1894 New York- LINK
Son Patrick born 1897 New York according to 1935 N.Y. death- LINK
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