Liverpool Industrial School (Everton)

[Rosedale]

Oh right Ruskie,
It's a shame about the lack of information as there's so much on the other industrial schools.

I've found an "Everton Terrace Industrial School for Boys" at no.33, 29, 23 and 19, but it was down as "Roman Catholic", also found a " Liverpool Industrial Ragged School" at Everton Terrace. Hmm.. Probably the same ones but I wish that it would stick with a definite name, number and with some information!!

[Rosedale]

Just in case anybody is still interested in the future I'll keep posting stuff I find;

Liverpool Certified Industrial School's (1864), Everton Terrace, Liverpool, for 200 boys. Age preferred 6 to 13. Inmates (1887) -204

The cost for food for each inmate averaged 2s 71/4d per week, and for clothing 11 1/2d - from 1875.
       
Snippets from books on Google.
Will keep active with more information.

P.S I have a James Bird on my tree (b.1909) - any relation?

[liverpool annie]

Just as an aside ... I did find this !!

Industrial schools were run by the workhouse Unions ( though religious
groups sometimes ran them on behalf of the Unions) They were for
children who had either committed minor crimes, or were thought in
danger of doing so, because they were out of control, or their parents
couldn't cope .....
It wasn't considered cruel in those days ! ...

Annie

[Pegasuss]

Annie.

Orphaned children were also sent to the Industrial Schools, to Learn a Trade!

One of My Ancestors whose Father died when when He was @10-12Yrs old (C1847-49) was sent there & served an Apprenticship as a Joiner (same as His Father).

[Ruskie]

Yes Rosedale, it does make you wonder if these are the same school going by a different name at different times.

I suppose it's also possible that the street numbering changed over time, which it often does in large cities.

The James Bird I'm looking for was born 1866 - but as I said, he's not a necessarily the correct one. But I am stuck with Bird's in Liverpool - there seem to be quite a few of them - there maybe some connection further down the line.

[J.J.]

I know this is old, but...Did you ever find more of your James Bird? Was he sent to Canada?  I just looked through the 1881 U.K. census for someone else on here, an Industrial School starts at Beacon Lane (later ST VINCENT'S, Beacon Lane. Sister Myddleton and Sisters of Charity/Rev. Canon Fisher.) 1881 census just calls this section  "Catholic Boys Indust Sch" http://www.missing-ancestors.com/liverpool_orphanage_industrial_info.htm
Then next is listed as St Georges Boys Indust School For R C Boys - Derby Road ( Thomas & Ellen BRINDLE )
http://www.missing-ancestors.com/st_georges%20ind%20sch%20west%20dery%20rd%20l%27pool%20info%20page.htm
Then "Liverpool Industrial School" ( headed by William & Emily BARCLAY) 19 Everton Terrace ...so the three sections seem to span the length of 3 addresses... ( Don't forget to look through the subsets when using this version on the 1881 transcription) After these long lists of children is the Institution "W Derby Union Workhouse For Sick Poor" Mill Rd
I would bet they split the institution into 3 or more individually named sections in order to be certified for 200 or more children per unit...Note that the 4th institution also had many children of all ages as well...
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/Census/household_record.asp?HOUSEHOLD_CODE=1881BR_3772644

Noted that the complete listing has St Georges Boys Roman Catholic Industrial School - at 137a West Derby Rd. and St Georges Certified Boys Roman Catholic Industrial School at 29 Everton Terrace, previously Everton Lace Ind. Sch.
http://www.missing-ancestors.com/ALPHABETICAL%20LIST%20OF%20ALL%20SCHOOLS.htm

[Poplar]

Hello Rosedale, are you still looking for information about Liverpool Industrial School at Everton Terrace? My husband's great grandparents were superintendent and matron there  from 1900 to 1911 and before that his great-great uncle and aunt - William and Emily Barclay. I am attaching a photo of it which we have, although I'm afraid I don't know the date it was taken.

[Blue70]

Some directory entries for this school and a link to a map showing it's location (between the R and T of EVERTON):-

Kelly’s Directory 1881
19 Everton Terrace
Liverpool Certified Industrial Schl.
W.E. Barclay, governor
Mrs E.J. Barclay, matron

Kelly’s Directory 1894
33 Everton Terrace
Liverpool Certified Industrial Schools
W.E. Barclay, governor
Mrs E.J. Barclay, matron

Gore’s Directory 1900
33 Everton Terrace
Liverpool Cert. Industrial Schools
Barclay William E. governor

Gore’s Directory 1911
33 Everton Terrace
Liverpool Certified Industrial Schools
Barclay Albert R. governor
Copley William head schoolmstr
Beech Fred first asst. schoolmaster
Lloyd John L. asst. schoolmastr
Peel Arthur asst. schoolmaster

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/os-1-to-2500/liverpool/106/10


Blue

[VICTORIA]

Thank you. Much obliged.
Victoria