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Re: VIC - Marriage(s) -Look up please
« Reply #9 on: Friday 05 October 07 01:43 BST (UK) »
hello there

is there any information you need?

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« Reply #10 on: Friday 05 October 07 12:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Jenn

Thanks   :)         Based on the 1901 info, I've located James T. Richings in 1881 (UK) with his parents and siblings, so am now able to eliminate him.

My RICHINGS search is essentially an effort to trace the roots of my great-gran, Lily RICHINGS (b. 1874), who along with her brother Thomas (b.c. 1868),  claim "Blenheim" as their birthplace.    [I'm presuming "Blenheim, NZ" ~ there is though a Blenheim near Toowoomba ? ? ?]    Their parents were Thomas RICHINGS, a butcher, and Annie (nee HEASMAN).    Over several years I've done exhaustive searches, BDM / electoral rolls etc. / tried variant surname spellings  .... all the usual   ... to no avail.   There are no NZ birth records for Lily, Thomas (or for a James RICHINGS b. c. 1890 - who purports (in info on his Army file), to be their NZ-born nephew).    Similarly, NO death records for the parents.

Only a "handful" of RICHINGS ever came to NZ  ~ mine probably got in "through the back door" ~ can't find them on any passenger lists!      I've searched UK records also, as best I can - again no luck.       I'm thinking I now have to turn my attention back to AUS and I guess it would be wise to start a new topic for this search ?    (Any ideas / thoughts, most welcome) :

Again, thanks for your help and interest, shown.

Kind regards

Lu       
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Re: VIC - Marriage(s) -Look up please
« Reply #11 on: Friday 05 October 07 21:23 BST (UK) »
Hello  there

So  you  have  a  certificate of some kind  for this brother and sister I am assuming?  in  New Zealand.

They could  have come from  Blenheim  in  the uk  or  even  in europe  I  am  thinking.  Will  have a  look around  based  on  the  parents names?

Did  you  find  anything on their  parents in NZ

kind regard jenn
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Re: VIC - Marriage(s) -Look up please
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 06 October 07 02:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Jenn

Yes, (NZ) marriage / death / probate-will  records for Lily ; [marriage / divorce record / probate-will, for brother Thomas] - all these certs. are very consistent with their "facts".

Nothing whatsoever in NZ records / electoral rolls etc. for their parents (Thomas and Annie) - NO deaths,  NO re-marriages etc. etc.

The NZ Army file for the nephew James RICHINGS offers little - he doesn't name his parents, nor does he know where they were born !

I have though, JUST found this listing on the IGI - South Pacific index  ..... which "may" be the mother, Annie HEASMAN ? ? ?     (I hadn't seen this before).

" Ann Amelia HEASMAN - baptised St. James, Melbourne, VIC - 1846 .... d/o  William HEASMAN b. VIC abt. 1820, and Jane Elizabeth AYLMORE b. VIC abt. 1824 :  [Two siblings also bapt.  - Rachel in 1848 - died at Kew, VIC 1938;  and
William Richard bapt. in 1846 ] " :
[Interestingly, these family names also fit with Lily's children, Ivy Elizabeth COATES and William Heasman COATES, and with Thomas junior's only daughter, "Annie Lillian Rachel RICHINGS" (who was known as "Rachel"]

Wow  !   I wonder if this might fit my puzzle ? ? ?

Thanks for any help you may be able to give.

Kind regards

Lu                            :)

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Re: VIC - Marriage(s) -Look up please
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 06 October 07 05:37 BST (UK) »
Hello Lu,

Unfortunately the birth record for Ann Amelia HEASMAN is an early church record i.e. the certificate won't be any help  :(

There aren't any records in the Pioneer Index for the births of William or Jane Elizabeth, or their marriage.

William HEASMAN and Jane Elizabeth had in Melbourne, Victoria (which was still part of the colony of NSW until 1851):
William Richard, St James CE, 1846 #14885
Ann Amelia, St James CE, 1846 #14886
Rachel, St James CE, 1848 #15937
Amelia, St Peters CE, 1851 #27008
For the births of William, Ann and Rachel, Jane Elizabeth is listed in the index as Elizabeth JANE i.e. as though Jane was her surname.  For Amelia's birth she is listed just as Jane.  However, Rachel's death gives her mother's name as Jane Eliz AYLMORE.

They also had a George - very much later! I didn't find his birth but here's his death:
HEASMAN George, born Melbourne, father William, mother Jane Elizabe AYLMORE, died 1870, age 4, #4125

An Annie HEASMAN married an Alexander MORININI in 1862, #4860
They had Amelia, b SAND, 1864

I'll put a bit more about Rachel in a separate post.

JAP
PS: I guess there might be further records but with HEASMAN spelled differently.

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« Reply #14 on: Saturday 06 October 07 06:17 BST (UK) »
A Rachel HEASMAN married Donald CAMERON (birthplaces not indexed for either) 1865 #2424

Rachel & Donald had (all born Ballarat, Vic):

*Catherine CAMERON 1866
  Kate CAMERON (b Ballt) m Joseph DUFFIELD (b Eng) 1905
     Kate & Joseph had Ida Kathleen DUFFIELD 1906 and Arthur Bruce DUFFIELD 1907, both b Hawthorn
- DUFFIELD Cath, father Cameron Donald, mother Rachael PARKIN (sic), died age 72, at PRAHRAN, Vic, 1938, #8714

*Eliza CAMERON 1868
- HUME Eliza, father Cameron Donald, mother Rachel HEASMAN, died age 88 at COBU (probably Coburg) 1957 #249 - Eliza is buried at the Coburg Cemetery

*Donald CAMERON 1870

*Mary Jane CAMERON 1872
- (She is probably the following) ROY Jane Mary Camero, father Cameron unknown, mother Rachel unknown, died age 89 at REGE, 1962, #8227

Donald CAMERON snr must have died.

Rachel CAMERON (birthplace not listed) married William PARKIN (born Sunderland) 1876 #1532

Rachel and William had:

*Ann Amelia PARKIN at 'EHIL' 1879
     Ann Amelia PARKIN & Jno Wm Geo QUICK had Geo Alymore (sic) QUICK 1903, Melbourne South and Ada Mary QUICK 1913, Richmond
     Deaths of children of Ann Amelia (PARKIN) QUICK:
       QUICK John William/ John William/ Ann Amelia PARKIN/ MTE/ 74/ 1974/ #1478
       QUICK David Leslie/ John William/ Annie Amelia PARKIN/ HEID/ 63/ 1978/ #15907
- QUICK Ann Amelia, father Parkin William, mother Rachel HEASEMAN (sic), died age 77, at Melbourne, 1956, #11302

*Edith PARKIN at 'EMERALD' 1881
     Edith PARKIN & Westgarth Charles Walker MUIR had Alan Cameron MUIR, Melbourne South, 1913
- MUIR Edith, father Parkin William, mother Rachel HEIZMAN (sic), died age 73, at FITZ, 1956, #7892

*William John PARKIN at 'EMERALD' 1881.

Rachel PARKIN, father Heasman Wm (that's how it appears in the index), mother Jane Eliz AYLMORE, died age 89, 1938, at Kew, Vic #7729

Cheers,

JAP

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Re: VIC - Marriage(s) -Look up please
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 06 October 07 06:27 BST (UK) »
Amelia HEASMAN (born Melbourne) married James BRADLEY (born Derbyshire) in 1871, #3546

I don't see any births to them.

JAP

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« Reply #16 on: Saturday 06 October 07 06:49 BST (UK) »
Hello  there Lu

Also  I  did  note  that Ann Amelia  HEASAM  marrried  in 1871  to a  James Bradley  so  one might draw  the assumption  that  this  may  very well not be  you Heasman  family  and  it may  not be a  trail  at all.

kind  regards Jenn

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EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
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« Reply #17 on: Saturday 06 October 07 06:55 BST (UK) »
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The NZ Army file for the nephew James RICHINGS offers little - he doesn't name his parents, nor does he know where they were born !

Harking back  to  this  snippet  How  old was  this James Richings and was he born in New Zealand,  if he  doesn't name  his parents  is Lily or Thomas  his NOK?

regards Jenn

edited  today  by  Jenn  getting absolutely frustrated at  her mistakes  still one can forgive a person can't one 8)
When you search for ancestors, you find great friends!
I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.au