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Re: John Vigar born 1713 Balcombe
« Reply #27 on: Saturday 18 September 10 10:43 BST (UK) »
Here I am again,

Forgot to say in my earlier message that all my contacts have Jane Eastwood born 1710, baptised 17.10.1712, as a sister of William 1714.  There are at least 4 of them (contacts that is).

I couldn't find anything on Family Search (IGI) on any names that resembled Eastwood, I tried, Istod, Istood, Istead, Isted.  There was a couple of Isteds from Mayfield but much earlier, i.e. mid 1550's living at Moat House, Mayfield.  I am going to have a look at the lists on film next week just in case they haven't been transcribed for the Family Search site.  It may well be there are other variants of the name that we haven't thought of.  Anything is worth a try.   All jolly good detective work ;)

Helen ;D

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Re: John Vigar born 1713 Balcombe
« Reply #28 on: Saturday 18 September 10 13:58 BST (UK) »
Hello again Kerry,

COLD? in Pevensey Bay? ;D

 Before I moved with my parents to Bexhill in 1947 somebody said to us "don't come to live in Bexhill if you don't like the cold wind!"  But we did and loved it there.

Which branch of the Eastwood family do you descend from?  My hubby Len's family were in Etchingham and his ancestors are William Eastwood 1714 Samuel, Stephen, Henry, James and lastly his mother Ivy.  I understand if you don't want to give any details on here though.

Luv Helen  :-*

 
Hi Helen

My line comes through William born 1714, his daughter Hannah married Thomas Pilbeam and their son was George.  He had a son James, then William John, then George Charles and finally down to my grandad Ron Pilbeam who was born not far away at Three Cups near Punnetts Town.

Samuel's family is where the Vigar's fit in, his daughter Hannah married Thomas Vigar!  :)

I'm not convinced about Jane, I've searched through the Mayfield PRs on disc again and unless they've missed some she doesn't appear at all.  Always best to check originals though.

Luv Kerry  :D

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Re: John Vigar born 1713 Balcombe
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 18 September 10 16:08 BST (UK) »
"John's wife was Ann Piper born 1676.  His children included William Eastwood born 1714 Mayfield who married Ann Monk in Burwash at St. Bartholomew's Church and they had 16 children many of whom, if not all, were baptised at the same church."

We have 6 children not 16?

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mills, eastwood, eastwood holmes, sussex. Foreman, eastwood, mills kent

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Re: John Vigar born 1713 Balcombe
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 18 September 10 16:44 BST (UK) »
I have 16 on my tree with the following christening years.
Sarah 1740 Burwash
Ann 1742
William 1743
Henry 1745
Thomas 1746
Edward 1748
Stephen 1750
Elizabeth 1751
Mary 1753
James 1755
Hannah 1757
Robert 1758
Samuel 1760
George 1762
Lucy 1763
Joseph 1764

My line runs through two of them Hannah & William.

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Re: John Vigar born 1713 Balcombe and Eastwood family of Mayfield
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 18 September 10 17:16 BST (UK) »
To confirm, cos I is getting confused  ::)

It is William and Ann (Monk) who had 16 children and I am descended from Hannah.

John and Ann (Piper) have a confirmed 5 children with another 1 possible to confirm or otherwise.

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Re: John Vigar born 1713 Balcombe
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 18 September 10 17:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Kerry
That's what we have, I thought I was going mad for a while? ???
mills, eastwood, eastwood holmes, sussex. Foreman, eastwood, mills kent

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Re: John Vigar born 1713 Balcombe and Eastwood family of Mayfield
« Reply #33 on: Saturday 18 September 10 19:26 BST (UK) »
That makes two of us then  ;D

I've changed the title of this thread so that Eastwood researchers can find it now as well as Vigars

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Re: John Vigar born 1713 Balcombe and Eastwood family of Mayfield
« Reply #34 on: Monday 20 September 10 08:42 BST (UK) »

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cos I is getting confused 
I've just about lost the plot with the Eastwoods ???

I now know that my Susanna who m Thomas Nailard is the daughter of
JOHN EASTWOOD and ELIZABETH PET m at Withyham 1739 and she comes in this list of children all baptised at Mayfield

1739 9 December Sarah
1741 28 June Elizabeth
1742 18 July Mary
1743 4 September Esther
1745 1 January Anne
1752 6 January John
1754 3 March Martha
1755 22 February Thomas
1757 29 April Thomas
1758 3 December Hannah

However, getting further back has proved frustrating  :'(

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Greenwich/Woolwich. - Clowting. Davis. Kitts. Ferguson. Lowther. Carvalho. Pressman. Redknap. Argent.
Hertfordshire - Sturgeon. Bird. Rule. Claxton. Taylor. Braggins

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Re: John Vigar born 1713 Balcombe and Eastwood family of Mayfield
« Reply #35 on: Monday 20 September 10 08:50 BST (UK) »
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The page for Marriages & Burials 1672 are missing   so that does`nt help.

I'm afraid there are more than that missing from the Mayfield Registers, also some entries are nigh on impossible to read.

Here's what I found when searching...sorry if it's a bit jumbled but this is how I've taken the info from the fiche

This information is from microfiche of baptisms, burials and mostly marriages supplied by the IHGS - part of their Sussex Collection
From a typed frontispiece to the transcriptions and reads as follows - with some of my own notes thrown in...

Copy presented to the Church by the transcriber W H Challen 01/03/1944

The first register book is the original paper record with
Baptisms 1570 Mch 25 to 1664 and odd entries to 1673
Burials 1570 Mch 26 to 1664
Marriages 1570 May 7 to 1663 Apr 21

and has the events mixed together till 1591 separate to 1605, then mixed 1606-10, then separate from 1611 to 1645 then irregular and out of order some entries being all for certain families covering several years.   
He then lists the years, families and events - families include Shoesmith - Carey - Pecke - Martin - Ashdowne and some others.

Second Register book contains separately
Baptisms 1664 Feb 25th to 1763 Dec 26
Burials 1665 Oct to 1763 Nov 20
Marriages 1665 Dec 14 to 1754 Feb 22 and copy (I presume from a 'copy' of the original PR) 1755 to 1757

1666 to 1695 from Bishops Transcripts as far as available for this period.
Baptisms 1664 end May, nearly a page cut off and a piece cut off 1665
Transcriber WH Challen and dated 1 March 1944 -

Burials 1570 - 1644 1st Register
1665-1763 2nd Register

3rd Book 1764-1789
by Courtesty of Rev T B Oliver
"Examination of these books revealed further deficiencies"

Burials - no entries 1671-1672
Incomplete 1681 ends 27 June

Marriages, no entries for years 1643. 1646 to 1654. 1657 to 1662.  1664.  1661. 1672.  1682 to 92. 1706. 1739.

Baptisms incomplete 1681 to 1683. 1691
no entries 1739 blank pages between 1738 and 1740
A BT for 1739 is available at Chichester Diocesan Registry
Mr Challon must have looked at these because they appear on the microfiche as 1739 "copy of BT"

1666 not complete
1667 1668 no BT
1670-1672 no BT
the years 1676 1677 and 78 are muddled births marriages and deaths all mixed up
1688 no BT

The Parish Register commences 1570.
According to 1831 census Births Marriages and Burials 1664 to 1693 are defective.
The present vicar Rev T B Oliver reports that the 2nd Register covering 1664 to 1764 has many gaps
1664 Feb to May the rest cut out
1671 no burials or marriages and so forth.
Census also records Baptisms and Burials 1801 to 1806 also defective "but this does not appear to be so"

In the 1st Register book 1 leaf 19th Aug 1577 to 9th March 1577-8 is missing - entries 1646 to 1664 are irregular and defective, Jo. Maynard, vicar recording 'the register was neglected'
BT's at Chichester for Mayfield commence 1666

He then goes on to transcribe from the BT's and records 1666 "this BT is partly mutilated" - he dates and signs his notes 01/03/1944


The biggest problem I've found when looking at transcriptions is that they don't tell you what's not there, ie the missing pages or illegible handwriting.
Suey
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Sussex - Knapp. Nailard. Potten. Coleman. Pomfrey. Carter. Picknell
Greenwich/Woolwich. - Clowting. Davis. Kitts. Ferguson. Lowther. Carvalho. Pressman. Redknap. Argent.
Hertfordshire - Sturgeon. Bird. Rule. Claxton. Taylor. Braggins