STEPHENS

[Gadget]

I've found this:

1866-Financial crises, collapse of copper mining, and emigration of miners. The main reason for this was due to competition from cheaper foreign ores, which caused the price of copper and zinc to drop below production costs.

From:  http://homepages.tesco.net/~k.wasley/Tinmines.htm

However it does say that half world's tin was produced in Cornwall by 1870  

Gadget

[bry-l]

Hi Gadget / Deb

Lasswade in Midlothian is a coal / shale /iron ore mining area and Nicholas worked as a coal miner when he was in the area.

At work at the moment so don't have all the details however, from the 1881 & 1891 census records there is a daughter Sarah J. dob 1870 ish - no sign of Sarah from the 1861 census though

Bry

[deb usa]

hi

was Sarah J, b 1870ish , born in Wales ...do you recall?

deb

[Gadget]

The North Wales BMD has a Sarah Jane Stephens, Wrexham (included Bersham), 1870. Local ref is WM/035/88.

The GRO would give the quarter but the local one can be obtained from Wrexham:

http://www.northwalesbmd.org.uk/births.html


It's my home territory 


Gadget 

GRO Ref:

Wrexham, March q, 1870, vol 11b, Page 340

[deb usa]

 

Thanks Gadget ... I am going to try and find all the Stephens b St Agnes, Cornwall in Wales in 1871 ...I am sure they are related to Bry's Nicholas Stephens....

Hopefully Bry's 1881/91 Scottish census records will add up to the Cornish and Welsh ones... off to find out what happened to Sarah b 1860/1 St agnes

deb

[deb usa]

Okay

I found a birth for BESSY Stephens (8 yrs in 1871, living in Wales)

Bessy Stephens
June q 1863, truro
Vol 5c pg 185

I cannot find a suitable birth for Sarah b 1861 ...she was 2 months in 1861 census...

deb

[Gadget]

 

Deb

is this the Bessy that you found earlier:

Hi Bry

This is what I found in WALES
1871

Minera, Bersham, Denbighshire wales  (RD~ Wrexham)
Williams Square

Nicholas STEVENS head mar 36 lead miner b St Agnes
Ann wife mar 36 b St Agnes
William J son unm 14 lead washer b St Agnes
Mary A dau unm 10 scholar b St Agnes
Bessy dau 8 scholar b St Agnes
Sarah J dau 1 b Denbigh, Bersham

[deb usa]

Yep Gadget

If they are the right family ...In 1861 in St Agnes Nicholas and Ann had 3 kids ... William, Mary Ann, and Sarah (2 months)

1871 In Wales ..they have William (right age), Mary Ann (off by 2 or 3 years), BESSY and another SARAH  who is 1 ... have to find the death of Sarah (2 months in 1861)

Hope I am making sense 

deb

[Gadget]

oops - it's Sarah not Bessy!

It might be that she died on the way to North Wales and that's a difficult one to find (probably impossible) if she did