STUDLEY / STOODLEY

[studley]

Trying to do some family research from across the pond ...

Looking for information on Joseph Studley (or Stoodley) or his father Abraham. Joseph was born on Dec 22, 1836 in Somerset. His wife was Ann Vincent, daughter of Robert Vincent. They were married in 1859 & emigrated to the US in 1870. He was a hurdle maker.

Thanks!

[mangomania]

Hi

Was he from Crewkerne?  There's a Joseph Studley, aged 5 there in 41.  Parents - Phillip & Letitia.

Cheers
Ian

[studley]

Ian,

Thank you for your response ...

My only sources of information about Joseph are his death certificate which lists his birthplace as Somerset, England and the attached biographical sketch from the  Missouri Historical Society library at UM-Columbia. It lists his birthplace as somewhere near Chard, England.

 http://thelibrary.springfield.missouri.org/lochist/history/paspres/studleyj.html

His death certificate lists his father as Abraham Studley & his birthplace as also being Somerset, England. Based on this information, I'm not sure that the Joseph you have listed is the same one even though the dates match up.

I have requested copies of the birth certificate of his son, David G Stoodley, my grandfather and his marriage certificate from the GRO. I'm hoping that these documents will provide some more details on Joseph.

Best regards,
Cecilia

[krisesjoint]

Hi Cecilia,

There are quite a few Stoodley's in Chard, there is a likely father Abraham but alas no son Joseph

HO107/949/2 Folio 12 Page 16
Bath Place
Chard

STOODLEY Abraham 21 Y (Yes born in County) Cotton Tenant Lab
STOODLEY Ann 21
STOODLEY Sophia 4 Months

also in Bath Street Chard 1841

HO107/949/2 Folio 15 Page 23
Bath Street
Chard

STOODLEY Abraham 64 Y Ag Lab
STOODLEY Sarah 60 Y
LARCOMBE John 3 Y

HO107/1928 Folio 65 Page 37
Reeds Court Fore Street
Chard

STOODLEY Abraham Head 35 Mar b Thorncombe Dorset Fireman at Iron Foundary
STOODLEY Ann Wife 31 Mar b Chard
STOODLEY Abrm Son 6 b Chard Scholar
STOODLEY Sophia Dau 4 b Chard

1861 still in Chard with Abraham and Sophia. Now here is where I come to greif. I can't find Joseph. He should be there - according to 1870 US census he had at least 4 children in England before emigrating starting with Lydia. I find the birth of Lydia STUDLEY Dec 1/4 1859 5c 503 Chard

Cheers Kris 

[krisesjoint]

This gets more interesting by the minute.

Now I do find in 1861 we have 

RG9/1636 Folio 156 Page 28
Ace Water
Winsham

ELLIOT Elizabeth 69 Widow b Winsham Midwife
ROPER Joseph Lodger 24 Mar b Winsham Hurdle Maker (Master)
ROPER Ann 23 Wife b Wayford Somerset Dressmaker
ROPER Lydia Dau 1 b Winsham

Wincham (Chard District) I don't find a marriage for Joseph and Ann Roper in Chard nor the birth of Lydia Roper 

now in 1851 I see Joseph and his family - Father Abraham

HO107/1928 Folio 195 Page 33
Winsham Village
Winsham

ROPER Abraham Head 56 Mar b Broadwinsor Dorset Lab
ROPER Mary Wife 55 Mar b Winsham
ROPER Mariana Dau 20 b Winsham Dressmaker
ROPER Fanney Dau 16 b Winsham
ROPER Joseph Son 14 b Winsham Lab

Large family including Joseph 7 in 1841 (Abraham Lab) also I note 2 Daniels one 10, one 2

There is a Vincent family in Wayford (Head Robert) who have a daughter Ann aged 3 in 1841

Now finally 1871 we have a Daniel STUDLEY and family in Winsham. 1861 he is in Surrey Daniel ROPER   - same wife Harriet, same son Abraham  

Something funny going on here

Cheers Kris 

[krisesjoint]

1841

HO107/949/10 Folio 14 Page 21
East Street
Winsham

ROPER Abraham 45 N (No not born in County) Lab
ROPER Mary 45 Y
ROPER George 20 Y Lab
ROPER Mary 15 Y
ROPER Elizabeth 14 y
ROPER Marina 12 y
ROPER Daniel 10 Y
ROPER Fanny 8 Y
ROPER Joseph 7 Y
ROPER David 2 Y
CLARK Ann 70 Y Ind

Now David aged 2 I initially gave as Daniel - they do look very similar. The more I look the more I think it is a v. The enumerator had a lovely hand, but a lot of the curve attached to letters is faint. Daniel 1 you can see his curve on the top joining the two strokes of the n (faintly) Daniel/David 2 the curve of the stroke is not there. There is however a faint curve joining the bottom of the two strokes. The name's apart from that look identical

1861

RG9/1636 Folio 153 Page 22
Church Street
Winsham

ROPER George Head 40 Mar b Winsham Hurdle Maker lab
ROPER Charlotte Wife 35 Mar b Chard
ROPER Ann Dau 10 b Winsham
ROPER Mary Dau 7 b Winsham
ROPER Elizabeth Dau 6 b Winsham
ROPER Mary Mother 69 Widow b Winsham Late Bonnet Maker
+ Lodgers and Boarders

RG9/371 Folio 160 Page 28
5 Cross Street
Batteresea
Surrey

Self Family Home

ROPER Daniel Lodger Head 28 b Winsom Somerset Lab
ROPER Harriett Wife 22 Mar b Wayford Somerset
ROPER Abraham Son 10 months b Winsom

1871

RG10/2406 Folio 72 Page 13
Western Way
Winsham

STUDLEY Daniel Head 38 Mar b Winsham Hurdle Maker
STUDLEY Harriet Wife 32 Mar b Wayford
STUDLEY Abraham Son 10 b Winsham Ag Lab
STUDLEY Esther Mary Dau 9 b Battersea Scholar
STUDLEY Sarah Dau 3 (Sic) b Wayford Scholar
STUDLEY Robert Son 7 b Battersea Scholar
STUDLEY Joseph Son 1 b Winsham

Daniel STOODLEY = Harriet VINCENT Dec 1/4 1859 Chard 5c 874

so Joseph and Daniel married sisters both married as STOODEY and are both back to ROPER in 1861

Cheers Kris 

[krisesjoint]

Cecilia,

I note on the Winsham Site (Click Winsham Archives - Researching Your Family - Parish Records)

http://www.winshamwebmuseum.co.uk/

the baptisms are there, Daniel's children baptised Roper also. Using search I see mention of "Stoodley alias Roper"  "Roper alias Stoodley"

Joseph and Daniel's marriages are not listed (They probably wed in the Vincent's home parish of Wayford) Their Sisters did marry as Stoodley also 


Deaths ROPER Abraham alias HOODLEY (sic) 67 Years May 1860 

Kris 

[krisesjoint]

Seeing what else I can spot Cecilia, and I do see there certainly are Studley's and Roper's in Broadwinsor. I note a marriage between the families in 1800 Robert ROPER = Grace STUDLEY 11 Jun 1800

http://www.dorset-opc.com/BroadwinsorFiles/Broadwinsor.htm

The only Abraham on IGI is 1805 and guesswork on one in 1792 parents Mr and Mrs

Kris 

[studley]

Kris,

Thank you so much for your help sorting this out.

It's very confusing to me.

I came across this link that may help to explain some of the mystery based on what you're finding ...

http://www.faulkner-history.fsnet.co.uk/Stoodley_frame.htm

There is an Abraham, bastard son of Grace Stoodley & Robert Roper.

I couldn't determine if this Abraham was my great grandfather Abraham , but based on what you're find it looks like he could be.

What do you think?

Cecilia